Data from lucky bancho about participation in field content

[Renathras]

I’m not saying this in a mean way...

I think(?) it runs along the lines of...

This.

Sorry if it wasn't apparent, but in so much as I'm taking a side, Snow, it's yours. People arguing "it's a small percentage" are countered by noting very little in the game has an overwhelming majority that do it. Even just 19% (nearly 1 in 5) is huge compared to a lot of content that has far less engagement. And Shurrikhan also has (B) right; that absent some full poll of the people to see who did it because they liked it vs who did it just because they wanted rewards, we don't know if this was proportionately higher or lower than for other types of content. Lacking that, the best assumption is that it runs on par with others, so the ratio would hold either way.

Renathras has a tendency to...

I just like being thorough. Shurrikhan got it easy enough. I know you don't read my posts, but that one wasn't hard to understand unless you're willfully trying not to understand it, and it was no wall of text, either. Didn't even need to edit it for length, and that's WITH the quotes. Of all the posts for you to trot out your customary attack against me over, that one ain't it. That post is literally two paragraphs. Not sure how you think that's "a good chunk of the bible".

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be...

I think it's interesting that we argue "retention" with Eureka/Bozja, but no other content in the game. Who was running Eden 1-4 Savage this last week? Probably not many. Should we stop making Savage fights because the "retention" is so low of people playing them 4-5 years later? Hydatos and BA released literally 4 years and 2 expansions ago. Anemos was added 5 years ago. HALF the lifetime of the game later and people are still playing in there. That's a hell of a retention! How many people were still running O5-8 Savage, which released around the same time, this last week?

I'm not sure "keep going in after 5 years" is the metric we need to use to justify content existing, since the ONLY content in the game that likely meets that criteria at a statistically significant level is probably Eureka. The only other thing I imagine comes anywhere close might be PotD.

As for the addition, there was apparently an interview with Yoshi P yesterday (?) where he talked about that "alternate battle content" they mentioned in passing, and in that interview, he also mentioned exploration zones. So it seems its at least on their radar going forward.

/agree with the "continuing to participate in it". I run this stuff all the time since I still like it.

EDIT:

Oh, almost forgot:

I already addressed the "motive" question (we don't know what this is compared to other content - how many run Ultimate because they want the weapon/title, not because they enjoy the content itself, for example? Or Triple Triad because they want the mount, not because they love the card game?), so absent some decisive evidence/poll of those people to see why they played it, we shouldn't assume that the rate of "hated it and just ran it for the reward" was any higher than for other types of content.