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    Data from lucky bancho about participation in field content

    https://imgur.com/26zozfz

    Now this data is not mine (all credit goes to reddit user krainz) but this gives an overview of how popular field content and its closest EW equivalent is for people who are included in the branco census

    In general here is the main points
    -completion rate of abyssos normal is 45% of active players
    -acquisition of the mandragora mount for IS is 16% of active players
    -percentage of 70+ that went to pagos is 35%
    -percentage of people eligible to enter BA is 19%
    -percentage of players that went to Zadnor is 47%
    -percentage of players that got to resistance rank 25 is 34.8%
    -MSQ completion rate is 70%

    So from this we can see that Bozja specifically but even eureka have great retention rates, 32% of people who unlocked eureka reached BA, over 50% of people who unlocked Bozja reached rank 25 and this is compared to an MSQ completion rate of 70%

    I’m still not sure how square saw these numbers and thought people didn’t like field content but I think it’s pretty definitive evidence that field content is popular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m still not sure how square saw these numbers and thought people didn’t like field content
    When have they said that? It was mostly the simps saying it on behalf of SE, with no evidence (ironic).

    They didn't make field content because they want to cut costs and milk the players and keep them subbed with less content and development costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    They didn't make field content because they want to cut costs and milk the players and keep them subbed with less content and development costs.
    ...Odd, in that it's difficult to make content that's more development-efficient than Exploratory Missions. Variant Dungeons probably rival the cost of an EM with all of <2% the longevity and flexibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    When have they said that? It was mostly the simps saying it on behalf of SE, with no evidence (ironic).

    They didn't make field content because they want to cut costs and milk the players and keep them subbed with less content and development costs.
    So you state that the "simps" are just making stuff up, and then you ... make stuff up?
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    The mandragora mount is a bad example.



    He changed it to the bike which is closer to 32%.


    Also, people doing content doesn't mean they like it. If you weren't around during eureka, the forums were mostly full of complaint that the relic was tied to it. People hated Pagos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The mandragora mount is a bad example.



    He changed it to the bike which is closer to 32%.


    Also, people doing content doesn't mean they like it. If you weren't around during eureka, the forums were mostly full of complaint that the relic was tied to it. People hated Pagos.
    The complaints at the time were bad enough that if you didn’t like eureka chances are the relic would not have saved your opinion on eureka so likely you would have never cleared pagos

    So that doesn’t really change the data

    Regardless for square engagement is good anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The complaints at the time were bad enough that if you didn’t like eureka chances are the relic would not have saved your opinion on eureka so likely you would have never cleared pagos

    So that doesn’t really change the data

    Regardless for square engagement is good anyway
    I would wager a not insignificant number of people did Eureka without enjoying any part of it. I think you're under the impression that relic weapons are just good for glams when the fact was then, and probably will be this time too, that they are the best weapon in the game at the end of an expansion. They will also be useful a pretty good way into the next expansion, making them a worthwhile investment for that alone since you won't need to grind dungeons for drops as early in the next expansion. There was a lot of reason to run Eureka even if you suffered every moment you were there.
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    Even now, people will go through content for completion of storyline/relic and still hate the gameplay process. Its played, yes, but the question of whether people like what they play or they play for reasons other than gameplay enjoyment is up in the air. Especially with how grindy Eureka is for its relics, and how practical Bozja is for other job levelling, I wouldn't be surprised at the fact that they're played a lot WITHOUT actually being majorly popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    Even now, people will go through content for completion of storyline/relic and still hate the gameplay process. Its played, yes, but the question of whether people like what they play or they play for reasons other than gameplay enjoyment is up in the air. Especially with how grindy Eureka is for its relics, and how practical Bozja is for other job levelling, I wouldn't be surprised at the fact that they're played a lot WITHOUT actually being majorly popular.
    I did Eureka, and Hated it.
    Some parts were better then others, but I had a Miserable Experience and hated I HAD to do this crap to get the weapon.
    The One and ONLY shining Grace of Eureka, was BA. Which, I pray in the future, we will see another or more High-End or get Savage Raids of that Caliber. With Huge Teams, required Coordination, and Punishments.
    I did it, I beat it, I got 3 Weapons: one I just wanted Pyros for Dragoon. But I didnt like it. I did it for the reward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    I really do need to finish both Eureka and Bozja. My goal before I quit forever is I want to be selected for a duel at least once...even if I get put down in seconds.
    Will Miss You Man.
    Even though we hardly interacted
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    Will Miss You Man.
    Even though we hardly interacted
    Well if you would like to keep in contact there is an invite to the discord with your name on it. All you gotta do is claim it!
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