Nidhogg!?

[Amage]

People should have to earn the right to fight HNMs. One way is by completing instance raids, killing bosses, and lesser NMs to get trigger items. Its like fighting off the big bosses henchmen before finally getting to face him. Those items will disappear after using them so the group or LS will have to farm them again.

I think this way promotes group effort, and co-operation that spans for a long time. It is way better than the lazy wait for it to pop so i can bot claim way etc.

this sounds like sky kinda but yah no not for hnm

[Andrien]

this sounds like sky kinda but yah no not for hnm

Why not? Give me a real good answer because that is how you pop "HNM" in XI right now. No speculations.

This is how you pop absolute virtue, and pandemonium warden the way I outlined my suggestion before. So, are they not classified as HNM too? I'm dying to know your answer.

edit. did you get past sky? (optional)

[Amage]

Why not? Give me a real good answer because that is how you pop "HNM" in XI right now. No speculations.

This is how you pop absolute virtue, and pandemonium warden the way I outlined my suggestion before. So, are they not classified as HNM too? I'm dying to know your answer.

edit. did you get past sky? (optional)

Ok why did theymake it pop HNM
1. Abyssea
2. the gear doesnt compare to Abyssea
3. People who didnt have ls or wanted to get the gear they wanted like dring etc was easier .
4. People who dont have the brain cells to see that Abyssea blows out any king gear

Reason all Hardcore players left FFXI was because all their hard work was killed in 1 patch
Relic's out Done by weapons u can get 1 day

[Firon]

Ok why did theymake it pop HNM
1. Abyssea
2. the gear doesnt compare to Abyssea
3. People who didnt have ls or wanted to get the gear they wanted like dring etc was easier .
4. People who dont have the brain cells to see that Abyssea blows out any king gear

Reason all Hardcore players left FFXI was because all their hard work was killed in 1 patch
Relic's out Done by weapons u can get 1 day

The bold is the reason i left XI Abyssea didn't kill the game for me the devs did with making all my shit useless in one patch.

XI is still XI and i would have loved the game regardless of how abyssea turned out.

[Jinko]

The bold is the reason i left XI Abyssea didn't kill the game for me the devs did with making all my shit useless in one patch.

XI is still XI and i would have loved the game regardless of how abyssea turned out.

It seemed pretty obvious to me that when they started increasing the level cap after it had been stuck at 75 for so many years that this would be the first thing to happen.

Old gear would be superseded by the new.

This happens in almost any MMO of course.

I don't know why you would be so attached to gear and items like that, personally I would be glad to have something new to work towards.

[Firon]

It seemed pretty obvious to me that when they started increasing the level cap after it had been stuck at 75 for so many years that this would be the first thing to happen.

Old gear would be superseded by the new.

This happens in almost any MMO of course.

I don't know why you would be so attached to gear and items like that, personally I would be glad to have something new to work towards.

Why wouldn't you be attached to a shield that took you 3 out the 7 years you played to get?

[Jinko]

Why wouldn't you be attached to a shield that took you 3 out the 7 years you played to get?

I duno because its just an in game item, I guess if the stats are better on a new item I would gladly replace it.

MMO's are mostly about new shiny gear for me though.

[ThePatriarch]

Why wouldn't you be attached to a shield that took you 3 out the 7 years you played to get?

Very few people will ever be able to feel the awesome feeling of accomplishment of holding a Relic. Especially during the years where it was extremelle, extremelly difficult to obtain one.

On topic however: Nidhogg, ohhh yeaahh

[Andrien]

Ok why did theymake it pop HNM
1. Abyssea
2. the gear doesnt compare to Abyssea
3. People who didnt have ls or wanted to get the gear they wanted like dring etc was easier .
4. People who dont have the brain cells to see that Abyssea blows out any king gear

Reason all Hardcore players left FFXI was because all their hard work was killed in 1 patch
Relic's out Done by weapons u can get 1 day

Try answering my questions for once. AV and PW have nothing to do with Abyssea, so try again.

Don't play the Abyssea ruined the game for me card while you're at it, that is a weak excuse to change topic. I also doubt your list of examples about Abyssea because you cannot make and upgrade empyrean weapons in one day. It takes at least a month or two of farming and killing NMs with a group of dedicated players. I guess you didn't know you can also upgrade Relic weapons to either.

edit: I've proven you wrong twice with your weak speculation. equipment will get outdone by higher level, this is common in all mmo