Nidhogg!?

[Jinko]

They could do it so that you have to quest for an item that must be worn or else the nm would kill you every time, maybe after the item is used a few times it breaks and you need to get another. This would add a level of complexity to the fight!

There were quest bosses in WoW that you would have to use a specific item on them to lower their level so that you could defeat them.

Say for example in this case, boss is always up but lvl 99 and you have to use an item on it to weaken it.

I agree with the above about quest chains, I don't want leves though as leves are fundamentally broken in that if you DC you fail the leve etc.

Quests something similar to the Job quest line but agree that it should be difficult.

[Roaran]

I hope they do a quest chain for any nidhogg type enemy. Nothing to difficult to unlock, but some serious story and background, then the final quest is something like a leve that you fight in the open, (there are some pretty big open areas that would make perfect areas for some epic battles), and make the leve hard as fuck, but not glitchy and dumb.

Also rather than make it an hour running around in some lame dungeon make the battle itself the time sink. So 30min-hour long battle.

ALSO, let us cut off its tail, break its wings so it can't fly, break its claws, and break its fangs. Then let actual materials drop: fangs, wings, claws, tail... THEN let us make gear out of it all that we can HQ attach materia and convert into really awesome materia.

^^^^^^^^^^ This kind of content would last years instead of weeks.

[Amage]

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I hope they do a quest chain for any nidhogg type enemy. Nothing to difficult to unlock, but some serious story and background, then the final quest is something like a leve that you fight in the open, (there are some pretty big open areas that would make perfect areas for some epic battles), and make the leve hard as fuck, but not glitchy and dumb.

Also rather than make it an hour running around in some lame dungeon make the battle itself the time sink. So 30min-hour long battle.

ALSO, let us cut off its tail, break its wings so it can't fly, break its claws, and break its fangs. Then let actual materials drop: fangs, wings, claws, tail... THEN let us make gear out of it all that we can HQ attach materia and convert into really awesome materia.

^^^^^^^^^^ This kind of content would last years instead of weeks.

dear god no that is not something that anyone but u would enjoy :P

[Roaran]

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dear god no that is not something that anyone but u would enjoy :P

You prefer mashing skills at an enemy where the only difference is the model it uses? And then running said battle 400 times for items that drop 1% of the time?

[Morticous]

roaran has some tasty ideas. They could do a short optional quest for each NM... just to give us a story as to why its so notorious in the first place! Maybe let that optional quest lead into something else so that its not just a short story but still the quest is optional, you can still fight the NM without it.

[Razor]

I would be in favor of using Nidhogg as a way to add a series of new NMs to the game. Something along the lines of XI's sea pop system of Abyssea's tier spawning.

Basically have in each of the three base continents (Thanalan, La Noscea, and Black Shroud) use a series of NMs to upgrade... say... a Blood Stone, to such blackness that it will eventually summon Nidhogg.

Stage I: Any of the open world NMs we already have will award you a base key item (Pink Stone) 100%

Stage II: This stone will allow you to pop one of three stage II monsters in each of the three starter zones. (Could be based off species of mob, or some other method). This NM will be challenging for a light party of 50s (lv55~59 or so) and could require several kills to upgrade to (Crimson Stone) stone. Could also drop medicore Lv40~49 gear.

Stage III: After obtaining a Crimson Stone, head to Coerthas to spawn a challenging drake NM that would require a competent Full Party of 8 to defeat. Ideally this NM would drop decent lv50 gear and also have a chance to break your stone. Could break your stone by using certain moves at certain %s if certain body parts aren't incap'd (e.g. At 75% He would ready Spike Flail unless his tail had been broken) If successful, NM would upgrade your stone to a Blackened Stone.

Stage IV: Nidhogg. Taking your Blackened Stone to a ??? in Coerthas would spawn Nidhogg, a very challenging NM that drops exceptional Lv50 gear. Failure to kill him would destroy your Blackened Stone.

Thanalan Example:

Pink Stone -------------- Crimson Stone ----------- Blackened Stone ---- BOSS

Pyrausta -------------
Nest Commander ------- Lv55 Pieste NM ------------
or Cactar Jack --------
==================================--------------- HNM Drake ------ Nidhogg
Daddy Longlegs -------
Bardi ------------------- Lv55 Ahriman NM ----------
Kokoroon -------------

[Mireille]

When i heard this i got very excited but then i started to realize that this game will do 1 of 2 things to this legendary HNM A. 5min respawn in which case will be fun for about 2 days B. Make it Instance in which case will be like current content and be fun for like 1month . Please SE or SE reps let us know more on this or tidbits on the Legendary HNMs plans

Lottery spawn off of Fafnir every 21 - 24 hours, oh please, oh please, oh please....

Actually I would settle for any system that made him a competitive HNM. Its fine if we don't have to stay awake till 3 am to claim him. For some staying up well past their bedtime is fine, but for others its unhealthy and has a negative impact on their lives.

That said any NM that would reasonably fall under the heading of "Kings" should be competitive, and shouldn't be something you can spam over and over.

[Skies]

You guys got great ideas and all regarding HNMs (I mean i'm not reading, I don't care about that), so great go ahead and continue the discussion, but-
Remember that Nidhogg himself is heavily tied to the Dragoon questline, so in a completely unrelated post to the whole HNM business, I don't think that Nidhogg will be one, but rather an instanced quest battle at the very tail end of the DRG quest, most probably the AF Weapon one.

I say this because from what I gather the name 'Nidhogg' was used by some somewhat famous XI HNM? And I have the feeling people are 100% sure it'll be the same thing here.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

I say this because from what I gather the name 'Nidhogg' was used by some somewhat famous XI HNM? And I have the feeling people are 100% sure it'll be the same thing here.

amage's sign should give you an hint. Yes, it's been a famous hnm in ffxi, where the most forbidable opponent was..the claiming. Bot claiming to be sure. That's why a lot of people (like me) is against the old ffxi's nm style, it reward only the cheaters

[Mireille]

I say this because from what I gather the name 'Nidhogg' was used by some somewhat famous XI HNM? And I have the feeling people are 100% sure it'll be the same thing here.

Nidhogg was a dragon from Norse Mythology, and a King HNM in XI. They could just as easily use Jörmungandr as a King type NM in XIV. Technically he was a serpent not a dragon, but his place in mythology was just as prominent as Nidhogg, or Cerberus.