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  1. #41
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    I tried to make sense of that jumble, but it looks like there's just some dogs you can't teach new tricks. Paladin away my friend.
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    1) they no longer have "a ton" more hp, as if that actually helps the tank over vit/def
    I stopped reading here.
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    Its not about learning new tricks, It about knowing your role and learning wich job best suits it under diffrent situations. If you feel you can do better, then by all means, I put out my Info, your welcome to put out yours, but again, dont judge people you cant even prove yourself par with. I respect everyones claims enough to challange them lagitamitly. These are lagit parses and pictures. Nothing to decode here, you simply cant beat it? if thats the case then dont come at me like I am incapable of learning how to tank well, when Its quiet obvious I can, and not only can I tank well, but I likely do better then you on WAR. If I am wrong , prove it. This argument as gone on for some time now. I think its time to put up or shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I stopped reading here.
    ofcourse you did, becuase your a fake and when truth is put out, you rather stay in denile.
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  5. #45
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    ofcourse you did, becuase your a fake and when truth is put out, you rather stay in denile.
    Or it's because you're still hung up on DEF being more useful than higher HP when testing here shows that defense IS mostly worthless and the correlation between Damage Taken and Defense isn't even affected by Vitality.

    It ain't denial of the truth if you're not actually speaking facts.
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    Last edited by Alerith; 04-08-2012 at 06:14 PM. Reason: Link enlargement

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    realy? Between the two of us, I am the only one posting proof. Untill you prove it, in wich you cant, you just full of hot air. Prove it then I will take your claims seriously otherwise your simply a troll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    realy? Between the two of us, I am the only one posting proof. Untill you prove it, in wich you cant, you just full of hot air. Prove it then I will take your claims seriously otherwise your simply a troll
    Ok, you clearly missed the link, so I went back and made it's font bigger for you to see and click this time.
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    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Also, an interesting bit from the charts:



    This shows that at a certain point, added Defense and Vitality is COMPLETELY useless.
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    no I didnt, I saw no parses, simply charts in wich DEF added was not only minimal but tests weren't backed by hard evidence ( parse, video, something) . Simply put its the same thing everyone else is experiancing , add a little def and see if it helped.... I have added over 100 def to my gear through materia and HQ stats , thats not to include the addtional vit I have gained aswell. I know for a fact, that the damage I take in less deff on a mongrel is MUCH higher then with my def gear on. I know because I have tested it over and over again in Natalan while PLing people. your link means nothing.
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    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    no I didnt, I saw no parses, simply charts in wich DEF added was not only minimal but tests weren't backed by hard evidence ( parse, video, something) . Simply put its the same thing everyone else is experiancing , add a little def and see if it helped.... I have added over 100 def to my gear through materia and HQ stats , thats not to include the addtional vit I have gained aswell. I know for a fact, that the damage I take in less deff on a mongrel is MUCH higher then with my def gear on. I know because I have tested it over and over again in Natalan while PLing people. your link means nothing.
    If you're going to simply toss aside data from a reputable source with a history of accurate testings in more than just defense, simply because it isn't done in a parser, then I have nothing more to say to you as you're clearly blind and ignorant.

    Good day sir.
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