Please buff AST

[IDontPetLalas]

We can quibble on the details - r8pe almost always happens in private where there aren't witnesses - the point stands: You not seeing it doesn't mean it doesn't happen often, and almost certainly doesn't mean it doesn't happen EVER.

I was replying to Nizzi, not to you or anyone else.

Nizzi's specific comment I was replying to was "That doesn't happen,".

There was no "you like to pretend", as I'm not "pretending" anything. I was counting an absolute statement that said it DOESN'T happen. If it happens in even ONE case, that absolute statement is false. You're engaging in ad hominems "from the same sort of player", and you're attacking SOMEONE ELSE'S CLAIM by attacking me as a proxy. Do you not see how antagonistic and off-putting that is?

If you have a problem with Zeastria's statement - maybe you should quote Zeastria's post and make your reply to Zeastria?

When you attack someone who wasn't part of it, didn't say those things, and was responding to a far more narrow thing, it makes it look like you're out to get me specifically, even though there's zero reason to here. And no "past discussions", not to mention I can't even think of the last time this came up, and I generally couch my statements to be more specific and less overblown as you claim when talking about this specific issue.

You really want to pick a fight over this? I'm not the one pushing the issue. I'm not the one pushing conjecture as fact. You're supporting someone who made an absolutely false absolute statement. Stop it please. You're a generally reasonable person, this isn't a fight you should have picked.

Typically I don't care about your drama however your analogy in that first line is really disgusting for any true victims and is really out of line. So much drama here, why not just walk away without responding. No one's attacking you.

No need to play the victim here.

[Renathras]

Typically I don't care about your drama however your analogy in that first line is really disgusting for any true victims and is really out of line. So much drama here, why not just walk away without responding. No one's attacking you.

No need to play the victim here.

Knock it off. It's not "disgusting", the point was obvious - there are things that happen in reality that not everyone is aware of. THAT was the point.

Instead of admitting reality, you two are both trying to get a "win by technicality". The worst part is, I only brought it up in the first place because I was wrongly attacked - yet again - here.

Replace it with "robbery". Replace it with "car accident". Replace it with "wrongful arrest". Replace it with "audited by the IRS". It literally doesn't matter, and you trying to stolen valor hide behind victims and "dishonoring them" to avoid the point is just disgusting and is really out of line.

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Now two of you have attacked me. So yes, people are attacking me.

Sebazy replied to ME, not the other poster, even though she was contesting the other poster's point, and doubled down on it.

You replied to ME to call me "disgusting" and "out of line" and "play(ing) the victim". Those are attacks, in case you were unaware.

Maybe you could have just walked away (or by) without responding? Unlike me, who has been attacked, no one was attacking YOU, yet you felt inclined to reply.

God this place. We'll go some number of days with no issues, then this same nonsense BS will start again. Usually when someone decides they have a wild hair and decide to "call me out" on something, then when I don't immediately crumple to them being wrong "calling me out", the dogpile starts. Every ducking time, exact same playbook. You guys need to get new material.

And the best part is, no one is actually addressing Zeastria. It's almost like there IS an unspoken "attack Ren on sight" rule, "...even when Ren is just agreeing with someone else, go after Ren instead no matter what, even if it means making beyond the pale excuses to do so."

And here I thought people were turning over a new leaf.

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Seriously, all you had to do, IDPL, was take you rown advice and just walk away without responding.

Unlike me, you weren't attacked unfairly.

All Sebazy had to do was say "Sorry, Ren, I misunderstood. My bad." or just walk away without responding, as I wasn't wrong to begin with.

BOTH OF YOU failed to take your advice.

But you want me, the victim, to be the bigger man and turn the other cheek as you both attack me?

I'm sorry, but no. As I said before, I CANNOT trust this community to call you guys out for wrongfully attacking me nor to defend my honor or character. Doesn't happen. So I have to defend myself because literally no one else will. No one else will call out the wrongful call-outs. No one else will point out "Ren is actually right and was talking about the statement that it never every happens". No one. If EVEN ONE PERSON would do it, then I COULD sometimes walk away without responding, knowing that at least one other person here will defend people like me being wrongly attacked. But not one person has the character to do so.

So I have to.

What you're doing is telling a victim that they should just get over it and move on and let their victimizer continue to victimize them.

That's what is disgusting.

Trying to join a dogpile on the victim is wrong, and you do it every time. Maybe next time, take your own advice and, if you haven't been addressed by anyone, just walk away without responding. Because unlike me, no one's attacking you.