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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    This hasn't been my experience. Extra damage equals extra enmity, and proper use of Collusion (and Antagonize) makes a big difference. If you're struggling with enmity on WAR I don't think you're playing it right. When you can "keep the mobs away from the other party members" and deal significant damage at the same time, it's a no-brainer.
    The only reason WAR needs Collusion is because it can't generate it's own hate and has to siphon hate off of others, hate that they shouldn't have in the first place.. Collusion has a 90 second recast time as well and during that 90 seconds, it's unlikely that I'll have much else help on enmity besides DPS because I have to spam the other hate generating moves in my first attempt to try and grab hate while the rest of the party sits and twiddles their thumbs...

    When I'm on PLD the rest of the party doesn't have to "watch their hate" they don't have to hold back their spells. They can nuke and curebomb all they like. When I'm on PLD I don't have to load up on Enmity + materia and accessories like I do on WAR. Heck, I can die in the middle of a moogle fight and then get raised and get all the hate back on all the moogles. If I die as a WAR tank, it's a wipe. I hate tanking on WAR, absolutely hate it, because of this and other reasons. It's just a lousy tank, and often times I get people who want to push me to tank with it just because everyone else is doing it.

    a huge problem with paladin is alot of it is reactive. you can't wardrum/or combo spirits within without a shield block which means that if you lose/dont have hate it's automatically harder to reclaim it.
    Sentinal + Flash or Provoke should be enough to reclaim any mob. It's is a lot of button mashing (Aegis Boon + Phalanx + War Drum). Bah. They do need to make it easier. I never have a problem with MP pool though. We usually have a BRD in the party.... to be fair WAR doesn't have much HP regen either. At least PLD can cure the party with Divine Veil (which I try to keep on as much as possible.) and I nom on some Apkallu Omelette before we go in. Anyways, I have so much of an easier time with PLD than WAR (even with Accuracy Buffs to help me LAND what I hit on WAR we haven't even gotten to the lousy accuracy.)

    Maybe I'm doing it wrong with WAR, but I see no reason to learn how to use it when PLD is just as good even if you don't think it's better.
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    Last edited by HiirNoivl; 04-08-2012 at 01:52 AM.