Pandaemonium raids are too stressful

[Jeeqbit]

Even E10 was harder than these raids because of the shadow mechanic that is very confusing until you understand how the shadow is oriented and orient yourself correctly for it. E12 wasn't had but involved doing maths to add up mechanics (such as ice + fire or lightning + ice) to work out the safe spot in your head and that was more likely to hit you than these raids tbh.

[Yokotsune]

I went in with a group of friends, in voice chat. P9N we one shotted. P10N was definitely way harder, but I think we only had two wipes before figuring out the new wacky mechanics, and we agreed it was a pretty fun fight. A couple of waymarks and assigning general directions for towers made a big difference.

P11N we wiped once but a lot of those mechanics were variations on stuff we've already seen so it was pretty easy to figure out and it was just bad luck we wiped.

P12 was..... something. I think we had four wipes before clearing. But we eventually figured out how to zombie it until at least the tanks were alive for the last 5% to clear it.

Caveats: We all went in blind with no clue what was coming. However, many of us have been raiding together for years - two of us decades dating back to FFXI. Since we were on VC, it was pretty easy for us to stop after a wipe an analyze.

If you aren't with a pre made group and don't want to risk being embarrassed in a PF with randos, then don't go in on the first day blind. Wait until the various raiders have made their own guides.

Sorry I might be a little out of the loop but people create guides to Normal mode content that is all clearly telegraphed for you by the devs?

[Boblawblah]

Sorry I might be a little out of the loop but people create guides to Normal mode content that is all clearly telegraphed for you by the devs?

Is that a question or a 'I'm so good I never look up guides' humble brag?

[Jeeqbit]

The guides for normal mode content began when mechanics weren't as obvious or intuitive, but since Heavensward they've gradually added more telegraphs for things and now we are at a point where any new content and any content they change like the ARR changes are now clearly telegraphed.

It's just sort of tradition to still make them I suppose.

[Yokotsune]

Is that a question or a 'I'm so good I never look up guides' humble brag?

Genuinely an honest question because telegraphs are meant for you to see where an attack originates from and where the AOE is going to land/hit. If you want to think of it as a humble brag that's on you.

[Anarnee]

Big disagree, I was disappointed at how easy they are actually. The only one I had any wipes on launch morning was the last fight.

[Hurlstone]

I'm not having fun anymore in this game. After I died in the tenth Circle 6 times I just closed out of the game. I really want to see what happened to Themis but I'm now too scared to go into Duty Finder :/

The raids are insane in this game and have so many mechanics thrown at you over and over again. It's so overwhelming and honestly feels unreasonably difficult for new players. They seem to be tuned for players who have played this game for years. Hopefully they make the next raids a bit less stressful.

*Looks at profile picture*

Oh I see...

[MrSigy]

Golbez EX however is kinda hard to do with pugs...

I can't anymore.
It's the fight that requires the least amount of healing since 2.0.
Every healer has like 40% overheal with no gcd healing.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Its not and its not. Its normal mode part of the story. Story mode. End game is savages and ultimates. This is supposed to be story mode.

LOL endgame is not just savage and ultimate. That is endgame for hardcore raiders that's it.

After reading this post I really expected it to be far worse than it was. We wiped once I died probably about 6 or 7 times over the 2 fights. The mechanics are not that bad and many have been in other fights just slightly different. But defo not worth nerfing and defo not more difficult than Alex normal raids on release. I too am a mediocre casual player :P

[Kes13a]

I'm not having fun anymore in this game. After I died in the tenth Circle 6 times I just closed out of the game. I really want to see what happened to Themis but I'm now too scared to go into Duty Finder :/

The raids are insane in this game and have so many mechanics thrown at you over and over again. It's so overwhelming and honestly feels unreasonably difficult for new players. They seem to be tuned for players who have played this game for years. Hopefully they make the next raids a bit less stressful.

have to ask.. did you buy a boost? not going to lie, but after the first 9 circles you werent expecting what you got?