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    Player
    EderTheBro's Avatar
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    Eder Teylecg
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 51

    Pandaemonium raids are too stressful

    I'm not having fun anymore in this game. After I died in the tenth Circle 6 times I just closed out of the game. I really want to see what happened to Themis but I'm now too scared to go into Duty Finder :/

    The raids are insane in this game and have so many mechanics thrown at you over and over again. It's so overwhelming and honestly feels unreasonably difficult for new players. They seem to be tuned for players who have played this game for years. Hopefully they make the next raids a bit less stressful.
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    They will get easier as people's gear improves. The difficulty won't last. Plus, the mechanics are extremely well telegraphed in the tenth one.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    DixieBellOCE's Avatar
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    Playful Kitten
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They will get easier as people's gear improves. The difficulty won't last. Plus, the mechanics are extremely well telegraphed in the tenth one.
    They were not difficult to begin with.

    Players just have an open expectation the content in the game should fall over by looking at it.
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    p9-11 seemed pretty well choreographed, it's 12 that turns into a real clusterfuck. and if you feel overwhelmed or unsure, it never hurts to ask any questions! most people will be glad to answer them than deride you for being a total n00blet. questions and practice (being able to press buttons without thinking so your attention is fully on what's going around you) will take you far
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    p9-11 seemed pretty well choreographed, it's 12 that turns into a real clusterfuck.
    Yes this. If you take a moment to observe the telegraphs and figure out what they are doing, all of the mechanics can be done on the first try or almost that. It's just the last one that is most likely going to hit you with things a bunch until you get used to it.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    p9-11 seemed pretty well choreographed, it's 12 that turns into a real clusterfuck. and if you feel overwhelmed or unsure, it never hurts to ask any questions! most people will be glad to answer them than deride you for being a total n00blet. questions and practice (being able to press buttons without thinking so your attention is fully on what's going around you) will take you far
    I love P12
    Finally, a normal raid that's got hands

    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    Golbez EX however is kinda hard to do with pugs...
    hmmmm I should try to DF it sometimes

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Implying the Mother Crystal can't kick your ass when the group sucks.
    everything can kick your ass if you suck
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    Last edited by hagare; 05-29-2023 at 12:19 PM.

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    localareanetwork's Avatar
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    Local-area Network
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 100
    id sis did tit while drunk with my friends ands itftelt like nothing happened? whats the thing syoure havingroyuble with ?
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    Paying Customer
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 90
    Seems like they only cater to raiders these days and make everything for them.
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Venari View Post
    Seems like they only cater to raiders these days and make everything for them.
    Not exactly raiders. The games issue is that in order to get people to where the majority of players are at, they basically have to make everything easier at the lower levels so it gets completed faster. The reason things are easier in the .x5 patches is that the gear has improved and more shortcuts to getting geared get opened up.

    The end result is that no one is used to what the game is supposed to play like. Technically, savage is also an issue because of the same issues. The way they handle crafting and gathering in this game and the recipes leave a lot to be desired as well. No idea why a consumable item requires aethersand. Almost 99% sure that anyone who does things casually in this game has no idea where to even get that outside of scrips and bots are farming those nodes. I've never really been a fan of timed nodes when people have real life to contend to, much like the firmament event.
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    Last edited by Colt47; 05-25-2023 at 08:55 PM.

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