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  1. #21
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    Restonance's Avatar
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    Odderan Gedesud
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon Lv 94
    SE decided FF14's audience should be the giga casuals who camp in RP venues and scoff at the idea of challenge, so don't expect anything more from stuff below EX. This has been the case since ShB.
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  2. #22
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    Zeastria's Avatar
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Just because YOU find it easy, dosnt mean others will...
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  3. #23
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Gaius Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    p12n is one of the only hard ones so far

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    My group wiped 3 times on the end boss in the new dungeon this morning. *shrug*
    not surprising the group wipes when the healer dies over and over to braindead bosses with hyper-obvious moves (literally just don't stand around tentacles wow so hard)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    Just because YOU find it easy, dosnt mean others will...
    yeah and the "others" are insanely bad
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    Last edited by GaiusDrakon; 05-24-2023 at 08:00 AM.

  4. #24
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    Khara Relanah
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Because not everyone no-lifes this game until controlling their character is as second nature to them as controlling their own body. Case in point, I had a party that failed the normal trial that just came out because both healers kept eating it at the same time, often on mechs they'd already passed on a previous run.
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  5. #25
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Gaius Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Because not everyone no-lifes this game until controlling their character is as second nature to them as controlling their own body. Case in point, I had a party that failed the normal trial that just came out because both healers kept eating it at the same time, often on mechs they'd already passed on a previous run.
    have to no-life to master the simple concept of.... going behind the boss, staying out, and standing in the correct lane.

    you know if hello kitty: best friend adventures is more your/their beat you should go play that
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  6. #26
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Every patch I'm continually surprised at how bad the playerbase is at this game. Better keep dumbing the jobs down, it's just way too haaaaaaarrrrrrd to maintain a rotation that consists of more than two buttons while performing the strenuous mental labor of dodging eye lasers that spend 10 seconds slowly, pointedly marking half of an arena to get out of.
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  7. #27
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    yeah and the "others" are insanely bad
    Nobody is born good - it's learned, and some need more time to learn.
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  8. #28
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    Nobody is born good - it's learned, and some need more time to learn something..
    lmao if it takes people more than 2 seconds to learn any mechanic from the new dungeon they should go play Babies Dress Up Simulator 2017 instead.

    the only valid counterexample is p12n where the final donut/out + tiles falling + divebomb pattern can catch people off guard first time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    That's bullshit lie and you know it
    Yes babyface, Babies Dress Up Simulator would be your type of beat.
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    Last edited by GaiusDrakon; 05-24-2023 at 08:08 AM.

  9. #29
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Your average player I would argue is considerably better than they were back in HW. However, equally, the level of difficulty has not increased proportionately to the increase in skill of the players, so it feels that everything has gotten considerably easier. - That's just the blight of getting better and having more experience

    I will say though, somewhat contrary to the point above. The mechanics in many respects have gotten harder, outside of a few outliers, e.g., Ivalice vomit, but on the other hand how hard they hit, and the punishment for failing just doesn't quite feel there, and to an extent where they just cancel out, e.g., feeling like you can just ignore some mechanics outright..
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  10. #30
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    lmao if it takes people more than 2 seconds to learn any mechanic from the new dungeon they should go play Babies Dress Up Simulator 2017 instead.
    That's bullshit lie and you know it
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    SCH/AST/DNC/VPR/SMN

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