I want to play *This* game

[ForteNightshade]

Wish they could do more to revamp the older content besides just adding duty support to all msq dungeons. Would like to see a complete revamp of open world leveling and questing experience. But the fact that theyre even going back and touching up older content is still commendable. Especially considering other MMOs that barely do anything about the new player experience.

WoW tried with Exiles Reach which imo is fine for it but theyre still doing the whole "drop you into BfA and force you to do new expansion once you hit the level requirement" which completely confuses a new player in trying to understand the game, the world and plot.

ESO is slightly better about it since each zone is somewhat self-contained but it still falls into the trap into putting you in the middle of whatever new content is at the time without much explanation.

Unfortunately, Endwalker is kind of showing why they can't. At least not with whatever budget and manhours SE is allotting to FFXIV. I suspect a big reason for the lackluster content this expansion has been them building out the Trust system and going back to future-proof so much older content. Not to mention the graphical update that will also effect said content.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Unfortunately, Endwalker is kind of showing why they can't. At least not with whatever budget and manhours SE is allotting to FFXIV. I suspect a big reason for the lackluster content this expansion has been them building out the Trust system and going back to future-proof so much older content. Not to mention the graphical update that will also effect said content.

No duh, its very clear that this is not the direction theyll be willing to go for since what I ask for is gameplay systems akin to classic world of warcraft.

[CStrife912]

Unfortunately, Endwalker is kind of showing why they can't. At least not with whatever budget and manhours SE is allotting to FFXIV. I suspect a big reason for the lackluster content this expansion has been them building out the Trust system and going back to future-proof so much older content. Not to mention the graphical update that will also effect said content.

I mean the double edged sword is they are always hiring and there are a lot of positions for the 14 team however they seem to be very strict on the vetting process and I just feel they should lower that standard a little and train them up when in the team or put them into smaller aspects of the game to gain experience. Its better to have something than nothing. But I agree the resource is stretched a little thin with updating old systems, adding new stuff and updating the visuals etc. That is without knowing what else they are doing if it gets announced during fanfest.

[Ransu]

Endwalker objectively has like no content. I don't think that can even be contested at this point. That's probably the biggest issue here.

This is just outright false. Just because its content you don't like doesn't mean the game hasn't been releasing content. By the numbers EW has released the same amount of content as ShB did at this point in the life cycle of the expansion.

[Stormpeaks]

This is just outright false. Just because its content you don't like doesn't mean the game hasn't been releasing content. By the numbers EW has released the same amount of content as ShB did at this point in the life cycle of the expansion.

[Ransu]

Yes, you are coping indeed. I'm sorry you cannot handle simple facts.

[Elissar]

Your life will be easier when you accept that MAYBE you will get it from 7.0 onwards or in the next FF MMORPG.
Good phases can't last forever.

[Hurlstone]

You are absolutely right about the relics, part of the reason Eureka and Bozja are still populated is that they are tied to augmenting job artifact sets, some unique glams and relics.

Lacking this kind of content to tie to those rewards will make Endwalker's legacy feel like... Well I don't know what's in store for 6.4 or 6.5, but I haven't seen anything that players in the future, main or fresh alts or new players, will want to revisit, with the exception of Eureka Orthos.

Yeah, thats a good point. Even if they did not want to make a new explorable zone, they could have still made the journey to create the Relics more engaging. I have just been running older HW content for my Dragoon Anima Relic, and that would have been a good way to approach it. Use things like the Shared Fates and encourage engaging with current EW content. Heck, they could fully embrace the Hildabrand aspect and make some of the challenges really weird, like have a minion/UI page that got more 'buff' the more you completed/weapons you got.

But you are also right that the world is not ending. The game is still plenty of fun for people that discovered the game after it rode the popularity of Shadowbringers, and there are the usual perma-AFK who do the social thing. It was always said about WoW that you cna only judge how good an expansion was by the sale metrics of the next one. I think more people will be willing to give 7.0 the benefit of doubt, and be excited that it will start a new chapter in the story. We'll see how 6.5 sets things up, I guess.

Yeah, I am very intrigued to see what 7.0 will be like and how they build up to it. I personally do not think its gonna be as big a launch as EW was, but I do not think its a sin if that is the case. EW was helped by alot of things, such as the pandemic bringing in new players and the decline of WoW. We shall see when that time comes! Despite what some may have implied, I am sure FFXIV has a few expansions and years left in its bones.

[VirusOnline]

Unfortunately, Endwalker is kind of showing why they can't. At least not with whatever budget and manhours SE is allotting to FFXIV. I suspect a big reason for the lackluster content this expansion has been them building out the Trust system and going back to future-proof so much older content. Not to mention the graphical update that will also effect said content.

I can't remember where I read this but in an interview YoshiP actually said that one reason for the relic design being underwhelming was so that resources could be directed towards revamping older content.

Oop found the article, read "busy with other content" as "busy with older content".

[hunkygladiator]

I mean, that wasn't the purpose why I brought it up. Content can be fun but ultimately fail due to the lack of rewards. Does that mean they need to scrap the content all together? No they just need to add some rewards that people will actually like. See them build upon it instead of just dumping it.

I never insisted you should run it as it is now either so dunno where you got that from.

Lol this will never change in FF14 because the developers designed themselves into a corner where the only gameplay-relevant gear in the entire game is:

crafted gear for week 1, savage and augmented tome gear once you finish the raid tier

every 2 patches (8-9 months)

every time they tried to add some horizontal prog there was initially some promise but they abandoned it just one expansion later which makes the gear completely useless.

This game literally survives on 3rd party motivation and carrots, like fflogs (keeps raiders doing savage over and over again), lalachievements (entices people into doing pointless 5000000 HQ black pearl ring type grind), glamour/modding/reshade (gets people doing old content for modded glamour; and it's easy to just swap the model onto an easier-to-obtain piece so with Mare people might seriously just stop bothering)