I want to play *This* game

[Elissar]

Your life will be easier when you accept that MAYBE you will get it from 7.0 onwards or in the next FF MMORPG.
Good phases can't last forever.

[VirusOnline]

Amended to exclude content with little staying power for the average player and added a few notes here and there. Italicized dead on arrival content.

The list was meant to be objective and factual.
Your amends are highly subjective as what is "average" and what is "staying power" varies from player to player.

In my view, EW has focused on providing the base experience of an expansion (MSQ, Alliance Raids, Dungeons, Trials, Dungeons, Savage, Ultimates, PVP, etc) while allocating resources for revamp on older content, updating infrastructure (new DCs & Worlds), DC Travel, Male Viera (which took 2 years after player feedback), VC Dungeons (though not impressive, it was based on player feedback was it not ?). GFX update is also pretty big thing. I've only worked on the more AI aspect of game development, but I imagine a GFX update with the amount of articles in XIV will take at least a few years to do and won't at all be a once over sweepover. These are some pretty big systems that ask for hefty resources. If we were to be asked for a lesser experience now in order for infrastructure update to support the game for another 5+ years, should we take it ?

And on a more personal experience the only real thing I can remember about SB was Eureka. It was the only real reason it consumed most of my time and brain space. Bozja even more so.
Eureka was a new idea, a new type of content. I enjoyed it, sure, but personally if I were to go back and have to grind out my 3-4 main jobs I would not do it.
I would greatly prefer if SE came up with a new inventive way that possibly involves the biggest and most ignored exploratory zones we have: the overworld.

Edit: We also have female hrothgar in the mix which is based on player feedback running on 4+ years now.
Compared to say the amount of content in ARR/HW, there's a lot of new content that gets tacked on each expansion and then requires updating periodically alongside maintaining the game itself.

[Minarisweet]

The posts from this op make me kinda sad cuz he is really passionate about the game and people just come here to dunk on him and anyone else that wants to show some kind of care for the game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The posts from this op make me kinda sad cuz he is really passionate about the game and people just come here to dunk on him and anyone else that wants to show some kind of care for the game.

Honestly if he was less abrasive and didn't claim all of his opinions as facts, I'd agree with him more. He does make good points... Sometimes.





But then he goes off on hamburgers, and saying stuff like people he thinks aren't attractive shouldn't be able to go against the will of people he thinks are attractive.



Makes it real hard to support him when he says women shouldn't start strong, they need to be damsels and build up to strength, but it's OK for men to start strong. Things like that just make it impossible for me to support him.

[4clubbedace]

The posts from this op make me kinda sad cuz he is really passionate about the game and people just come here to dunk on him and anyone else that wants to show some kind of care for the game.

yeah the guys opnions arnt really anything to give a lot of respect to. He doesnt understand nuance and believes his own opinions and feelings to be widley held and the norm. The bigest issue is that there ARE things to do just;

-He doesnt like the rewards
-Dont wanna

Thats why people clown and jeer at him.

I feel similarly. FFXIV as of late as had an issue with pushing subversive nonsense forward as opposed to more traditional tastes. We're supposed to pretend like femroes are attractive yet they're the least played race/gender combination. Male character design and mannerisms are another issue entirely. G'raha Tia will forever look like an annoying school girl to me with the way he looks and behaves. Doesn't seem like that will be remedied anytime soon either.

[Ransu]

The posts from this op make me kinda sad cuz he is really passionate about the game and people just come here to dunk on him and anyone else that wants to show some kind of care for the game.

He doesn't come off as passionate about the game to me. More so comes off as a troll.

[Hurlstone]

The posts from this op make me kinda sad cuz he is really passionate about the game and people just come here to dunk on him and anyone else that wants to show some kind of care for the game.

I used to give them the benefit of doubt, but its become increasingly clear that either their passion comes from a singular, very narrow version of what the game ‘must’ be or more likely they are just trolling us all. It would be great if we could accept everyone as being honest in their intentions, and I do like to give people said chance, but like any public space their are bad actors here preaching civility but acting with different intentions.

[BaconBits]

Normalize causing chaos, being deceitful and spreading misinformation on purpose.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Normalize causing chaos, being deceitful and spreading misinformation on purpose.

Isn't this already a thing?
Shoot, I still remember all the threads from EW Launch.

[StarRosie]

The posts from this op make me kinda sad cuz he is really passionate about the game and people just come here to dunk on him and anyone else that wants to show some kind of care for the game.

The issue is, while I agree with some points he makes, he wraps them up in this overly pretentious, condescending, and narcissistic attitude. Which I often can't tell if it's a character he's putting on or not. But this attitude makes it incredibly difficult to take a lot of what he says seriously, cause you can't tell if they really MEAN any of it. Cause again, it feels like he's putting on a character. But the fact they take any counterpoint given to them and dismiss it with incredibly subjective reasoning and treating it like they are objective fact, is also a major issue. An example from this thread, the fact he took a list comparing content between expansions up to this point, just the hard numbers and data, and 'amended' it with an INCREDIBLY subjective criteria and even added highly subjective little notes, and treats it like he's speaking objective fact.

Discussion is a back and forth that only works if both participants treat each other with some degree of decency and respect, yet every time I've seen someone make a counterpoint in good faith and showing them some decency, he responds in a manner that reads like he's looking down his nose at them like they are beneath him. And when people encounter this over and over and over and over, eventually...they stop trying to be civil. And that's why people dunk on him so much. He did this to himself. And believe me, I know a lot of what I've said is also subjective. I'm genuinely trying to remove as much of my personal feelings from this as I can. But this really is a case of "He did it to himself."