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    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    There was nothing to "read into them" - he was very explicit in his posts. You just can't stand that the world has moved on from that neolithic viewpoint. As to derailing threads, there was one recently from someone posting about what they liked in EW. And guess what? There's the usual group of trolls bashing them for saying something good about the game on page one. And guess what? You're included!
    And they keep accusing "white knight" as the one who derails the thread while the facts already there...

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Though proclaiming that someone 'hates women' because they seek to hold Venat accountable for her actions or want some 'damsel in distress' to moments to balance out the tiresome 'stupid men' trope is rather desperate and dubious.
    I'm not sure where did you get that "hates women" because of Venat, since most of his fanfiction story is just "Venat turned evil". It's mostly of his other thread that discussed something about misogyny behavior. But eh, I don't really care about it anymore.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I'm not sure where did you get that "hates women" because of Venat, since most of his fanfiction story is just "Venat turned evil". It's mostly of his other thread that discussed something about misogyny behavior. But eh, I don't really care about it anymore.
    At least one of the posters in this thread has, in the past, directly accused people of disliking Venat on the basis of her being a woman. Much in the same vein as how you, yourself, have referred to people as 'psychos' for wanting more stakes and consequences in the story - which I would like to think is meant as a joke...?

    Furthermore, the criticism and rewrites of Venat are less about making her 'evil' and more so making her equally accountable for the atrocities she has committed. A lot of people overlook the fact that the Sundered exist at the expense of the Ancients and only came to exist because the Ancients were subject to genocide at the hands of Venat. The game bends over backwards to downplay that and even excuse it as a 'grim necessity' which understandably rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, especially since it does not align with the supposed moral compass of the Scions who have a very muted reaction to it all to the point where they get more enraged in cases where one of their own is simply being inconvenienced by someone.

    I don't particular care if someone likes or dislikes Venat, though I do think the concerns raised by those who do not are often misinterpreted in a way that is very dubious. She's a collection of pixels in a video game rather than a real person at the end of the day and the actual people with real thoughts and feelings are inherently more valuable by comparison.
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