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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    There was nothing to "read into them" - he was very explicit in his posts. You just can't stand that the world has moved on from that neolithic viewpoint. As to derailing threads, there was one recently from someone posting about what they liked in EW. And guess what? There's the usual group of trolls bashing them for saying something good about the game on page one. And guess what? You're included!
    I have a strong hunch that you actually know very little about him or anybody else you're lumping in with him and are simply jumping to wild conclusions in order to 'get back' at someone who dared to criticise the game. By all means, disagree with his or anybody else's points in a post. Nobody is suggesting otherwise. Though proclaiming that someone 'hates women' because they seek to hold Venat accountable for her actions or want some 'damsel in distress' to moments to balance out the tiresome 'stupid men' trope is rather desperate and dubious.

    Incidentally, some of us aren't even interested in women in the first place by virtue of being gay which makes the accusations even more bizarre and bad faith.

    I already touched on all this in a couple of recent posts, though, so I'll quote them for your convenience:

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    There's a big difference between criticising the game and insulting or threatening actual posters. The forums are far from an echo chamber and nobody bashes every aspect of the game. It just so happens that a lot of what some of us enjoy is being removed for the benefit of the same people insisting that the game is fine and that they're happy for a relic weapon to revolve around collecting tomestones yet again. So those of us who would prefer not to have every aspect of the game we enjoy be stripped away speak up and use the forum for its intended purpose - leaving feedback.
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    You didn't even post on the forum until a year ago so I find it very unlikely that you were around to even see the people instigating the long running grudges around these parts and even if you were, you'd no doubt just dismiss any evidence immediately.

    The people with concerns towards the game aren't going around sending people death threats and rape threats. Some of the people who can't handle Endwalker being criticised, however, have done so. Though it isn't on the same level as death and rape threats, even some within this very thread have accused anyone who criticises Venat as 'hating women'. I'm tired of pretending as if people don't get outright deranged over this game because they absolutely do - and it's a large reason as to why there's so much 'hostility' around these parts. A lot of us are pretty damn tired of having to walk on eggshells around unhinged nutjobs.

    Pretending as if 'both sides' are equally to blame in this case is not only in bad faith it's outright reprehensible.
    Please cease the bad faith attempts at spinning false narratives and attributing false motives to posters who are criticising the game. The simple fact that they bother to speak up suggests some level of investment and enjoyment in the game - which may or may not differ from what you, personally, find interesting.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 05-08-2023 at 10:26 AM.