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  1. #101
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    Taking risks?

    Yes, and no.

    Nope in the regards to they have not flushed out relics as well as they could have and still remain on a fairly rigid patch schedule.

    Yes, in regard to the fact if they didn't take risks then they probably would not have gone for Island Sanctuary nor criterion/variant. Anything which follows outside of what they have historically done is a risk. Whether the risk in the long run for IS and the dungeons remains to be seen.

    If they were interested in playing it safe they could just give the players exploratory content ad nauseum for eternity.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I can't stand streamers. I think they're one of the worst things to happen to gaming - but that aside, her concerns are very valid and shared by many here.
    ^ This. The only FFXIV streamer I can stand is Xenosys Vex, and even then I only watch his clips, I don't think I could actually watch a full stream. That being said, Zepla's concerns are indeed valid, regardless of whether or not she's a streamer.

    However, it does feel like streamers are only expressing these concerns now that it isn't unpopular to do.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    ^ This. The only FFXIV streamer I can stand is Xenosys Vex, and even then I only watch his clips, I don't think I could actually watch a full stream. That being said, Zepla's concerns are indeed valid, regardless of whether or not she's a streamer.

    However, it does feel like streamers are only expressing these concerns now that it isn't unpopular to do.
    I can't stand any FFXIV content creator, none of them are entertaining to me (from what little I have seen). But yes, valid concerns are valid concerns, regardless of the source.

    I don't disagree, previously they would have been cancelled by the community for criticism, as far as I remember.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Is this a fairly universally accepted thought?
    Personally I had expected an ARR/HW like relic myself which for as much people argue it is just a tomestone dump now that ignores stuff like umbrite/crystal sands, books, and light steps.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Is this a fairly universally accepted thought?
    No. Many people hated Eureka. In fact even when everyone was in there, seeming to have the time of their life, when I actually asked them, they said it was an awful experience. Yet they seemed to be having fun to me based on the laughing that was going on in my linkshells and FC? And when I went in there, I was having fun too.

    We had a lot of people saying they preferred the old way of getting them from old content like in Heavensward and ARR, at the time, causing SE to try and find a middleground with Bozja where we could do it either way.

    Then they just went completely the tomestone way with this expansion, and now the scales are tipped in the opposite direction from Stormblood so people who liked the Eureka way are now the ones disappointed.

    At least Bozja gave us the option to do it purely through Bozja if we wanted to restrict ourselves to new content.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  6. #106
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    Personally I had expected an ARR/HW like relic myself which for as much people argue it is just a tomestone dump now that ignores stuff like umbrite/crystal sands, books, and light steps.
    Umbrite/Crystal Sands are basically just tomestone dumps, Books are tedious busywork (there's a reason why they never came back), and light farming is just basically farm X content for Y drops in another form. Looking back, you can see that future relic quests basically just used the skeleton of ARR/HW relic quests. Which...may explain why a lot of them have been pretty much repeats of the same things at the bare bones. A shame this one is just the tomestone dump, but I'd love to see them force people into the higher level Alliance Raids. Forced to do Dun Scaith, Orbonne, and Paradigm's Breach for the drops, if only to reinvigorate the amount of people running them.
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  7. #107
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    /tencharacters
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
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    Eureka and Bozja really got the community together and.. doing things.. There really isn't anything else in FFXIV like it. At the time Eureka was a blast, because everyone was there doing it. People were cooperating with eachother for a common goal, and even if people didn't like the content, they liked just being there talking to people.
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    Man that video was a slog. Like 20 minutes of her just saying the same things over and over again. I don't even disagree with her, but it's never been more obvious that XIV content creators are running on fumes and need to drag their shit out and then beat the dead horse until it's pulp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

  10. #110
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post

    /tencharacters
    A lot of the things people like in the game are actively being removed at the behest of those insisting everything is fine, though. I liked Bozja. I liked Eureka.

    People leave feedback to get more of what they'd like to see and most MMO's at least throw more of a bone to account for varied tastes.
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