Relic News - 6.45

[Xirean]

As someone who absolutely hates both Eureka and Bozja, I'm very happy with the current relic steps for EW. Could they be more involved? Sure, do I need them to be? No. I'm very happy with a passive relic especially considering it in no way locks you out of the rest of the game like Eureka and Bozja did. If you want some other more involved steps, I'm fine with that, but only if it doesn't lock you away from other activities while doing them. Making the relics tied entirely (currently) to tomestones is imo a great thing. It's future proofed, which is extremely important imo, and rewards you for doing pretty much any EW related activity and will become an even wider range of activities come 7.0 when it's converted to poetics. All this rage I fail to understand.

[DixieBellOCE]

As someone who absolutely hates both Eureka and Bozja, I'm very happy with the current relic steps for EW. Could they be more involved? Sure, do I need them to be? No. I'm very happy with a passive relic especially considering it in no way locks you out of the rest of the game like Eureka and Bozja did. If you want some other more involved steps, I'm fine with that, but only if it doesn't lock you away from other activities while doing them. Making the relics tied entirely (currently) to tomestones is imo a great thing. It's future proofed, which is extremely important imo, and rewards you for doing pretty much any EW related activity and will become an even wider range of activities come 7.0 when it's converted to poetics. All this rage I fail to understand.

Its more the overall expansion.

The content people are used to getting was cut, and the content drought is really kicking in.

All of this could have been avoided by simply giving players an activity to work towards, previously this was just relic content.
It's not hard, but it's something to keep you busy between the dead patches of the game.

That 'content' has just been replaced by 'run the same shit you have been for the last year and a half', while the content added this expansion remains abandoned on release because they can't get two braincells to rub together to use that content for relic steps.

[Xirean]

Its more the overall expansion.

The content people are used to getting was cut, and the content drought is really kicking in.

All of this could have been avoided by simply giving players an activity to work towards, previously this was just relic content.
It's not hard, but it's something to keep you busy between the dead patches of the game.

That 'content' has just been replaced by 'run the same shit you have been for the last year and a half', while the content added this expansion remains abandoned on release because they can't get two braincells to rub together to use that content for relic steps.

Then you already know the very obvious but for some reason hated answer on the forums.
Take. A. Break.

[DixieBellOCE]

Then you already know the very obvious but for some reason hated answer on the forums.
Take. A. Break.

The same answer every single shill and troll on the forum responds with.

Square Enix is not an indie company, they have the resources to do better, and never will so long as people cough up the same stupid comment every time. 'JuSt Go PlAy SoMeThInG ElSe'.

The casual players are not going to quit if the game gets more content, but the opposite will happen if the game gets no content.

[Iyrnthota]

The same answer every single shill and troll on the forum responds with.

Square Enix is not an indie company, they have the resources to do better, and never will so long as people cough up the same stupid comment every time. 'JuSt Go PlAy SoMeThInG ElSe'.

The casual players are not going to quit if the game gets more content, but the opposite will happen if the game gets no content.

I don't think it's a resource thing tbh.
I just don't think their design vision caters to people who want to be able to play non-stop.

Can they make more content? Probably.
Will they? Probably not, I don't think that's the game they want to make.

[DixieBellOCE]

I don't think it's a resource thing tbh.
I just don't think their design vision caters to people who want to be able to play non-stop.

Can they make more content? Probably.
Will they? Probably not, I don't think that's the game they want to make.

The simple part that a lot of the posters here don't realize, is long lasting content does not have to be hard content.
It just has to be something that keeps players engaged with the game.

Nobody is saying lock Relics behind savage, they are just asking for 'something' that isn't the same boring daily grind they have been on for well over a year now.

I've always had the mindset that relics were there to not be the greatest weapon, but more of a trophy for putting in the effort to complete the content that came with it.
But with the current direction, that trophy has just become something of spite, due to the lack of care the developers have shown towards the content released this expansion.

The saving grace for this expansion for me personally, were the gathering relics (and hopefully the future steps of them). It asked you to complete some basic objectives, that were not hard, it just required a time sink, which is basically what all relics were.
Those small grinds to achieve the relic filled in the gaps nicely between roulettes and raids, and other content in the game. It was just something laid back, that rewarded you for your time.

[Iyrnthota]

The simple part that a lot of the posters here don't realize, is long lasting content does not have to be hard content.
It just has to be something that keeps players engaged with the game.

Nobody is saying lock Relics behind savage, they are just asking for 'something' that isn't the same boring daily grind they have been on for well over a year now.

I've always had the mindset that relics were there to not be the greatest weapon, but more of a trophy for putting in the effort to complete the content that came with it.
But with the current direction, that trophy has just become something of spite, due to the lack of care the developers have shown towards the content released this expansion.

The saving grace for this expansion for me personally, were the gathering relics (and hopefully the future steps of them). It asked you to complete some basic objectives, that were not hard, it just required a time sink, which is basically what all relics were.
Those small grinds to achieve the relic filled in the gaps nicely between roulettes and raids, and other content in the game. It was just something laid back, that rewarded you for your time.

I'm not sure if this was a response to my post, or if you just used it as a jumping off point to talk about something, but I don't think long lasting content has to be hard either.

What I'm saying is that I don't think the design direction for this game includes much long form content.

IMO, their long form content for this expansion was Island Sanctuary, so since they already had one, they didn't want to put in another in the form of a big relic grind.

[Xirean]

The same answer every single shill and troll on the forum responds with.

Square Enix is not an indie company, they have the resources to do better, and never will so long as people cough up the same stupid comment every time. 'JuSt Go PlAy SoMeThInG ElSe'.

The casual players are not going to quit if the game gets more content, but the opposite will happen if the game gets no content.

If you think that everyone who says that is a troll or a shill then you're just delusional. There's nothing wrong with stopping. There's nothing wrong with taking a break, especially when the game isn't fun for you. I swear some people seem allergic to the concept.

[Stormpeaks]

If you think that everyone who says that is a troll or a shill then you're just delusional. There's nothing wrong with stopping. There's nothing wrong with taking a break, especially when the game isn't fun for you. I swear some people seem allergic to the concept.

Content done in 1 week ? just take a break for 3 and a half month or more until the next patch

What a great way to do content, and if you arent happy, you are at fault for not taking a break and wanting to do actual content in the game, great thinking there

jesus christ you guys will do anything to defend this company and it's absolute laziness and the absolute mediocrity of the content in the game

[Xirean]

Content done in 1 week ? just take a break for 3 and a half month or more until the next patch

What a great way to do content, and if you arent happy, you are at fault for not taking a break and wanting to do actual content in the game, great thinking there

jesus christ you guys will do anything to defend this company and it's absolute laziness and the absolute mediocrity of the content in the game

You will do anything to put words in people's mouths that they never actually said won't you? Taking a break is not a defense of the company, it's just what you do when the game isn't fun. Something I think quite a few people should consider doing a bit more often with this game. That includes having "no content" or the release of content you don't enjoy. If you're not having fun, then why are you playing? I don't know how to make it more straight forward then that.