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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You can already do roulettes whenever you wish, roulettes are all this game is about (and they are the most damn boring thing, as if having 2 spells to use in a low level dungeon is fun and entertaining), what about the people that want something else ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    ...and yet you get your roulette fix whenever you so wish, they're not going anywhere. When exactly are those of us who want something different to roulettes meant to get actual content, then? The tomestone event currently live also revolves around roulettes.

    Maybe the player population and retention for players who do more than hang around in venues isn't very solid and so this is a cynical attempt to desperately try and breathe new life into roulette queues. Even as they continue to update the bulk of the game to be completed solo style.
    The same can be said about fates. You can farm bicolour gemstones rigth now.

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    But that would require people to actually want to grind rather than auto-pilot through roulettes before going back to their respective RP hubs to afk/jerk off.

    Apologies if that offends anyone but as someone who actually enjoys working hard for relics, this feels like a slap in the face.
    You can not seriously imply that grinding fates isnt a complete auto-pilot business. If anything it's even worse auto-piloting than roulettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The same can be said about fates. You can farm bicolour gemstones rigth now.



    You can not seriously imply that grinding fates isnt a complete auto-pilot business. If anything it's even worse auto-piloting than roulettes.
    My opinion but I feel doing FATEs with some form of RNG attached to it is more engaging than doing the same dailies that we do every day. It felt like more effort was involved than the gutted version of a relic grind we have now where everything is basically handed to you. If that's fun or rewarding enough for you, cool. Go enjoy it. Let the rest of us voice the valid complaints we have. For me, it's incredibly boring and is honestly making me consider just going full force on savage for next tier just to avoid doing it, which is really sad as relics were/are my favorite part of the game.

    I'm also just irritated in general that it was said this grind would be similar to HWs and none of that has really come to fruition. When I think of HW, I don't think of exchanging tomestomes for every single step.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 05-02-2023 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    My opinion but I feel doing FATEs with some form of RNG attached to it is more engaging than doing the same dailies that we do every day. It felt like more effort was involved than the gutted version of a relic grind we have now where everything is basically handed to you. If that's fun or rewarding enough for you, cool. Go enjoy it. Let the rest of us voice the valid complaints we have. For me, it's incredibly boring and is honestly making me consider just going full force on savage for next tier just to avoid doing it, which is really sad as relics were/are my favorite part of the game.

    I'm also just irritated in general that it was said this grind would be similar to HWs and none of that has really come to fruition. When I think of HW, I don't think of exchanging tomestomes for every single step.
    I honestly expected to be accused of strawmaning. If you like fate grinding that's nice and all but if you think fates is hard work and not auto-piloting to the max then this is why the devs dont listen to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I honestly expected to be accused of strawmaning. If you like fate grinding that's nice and all but if you think fates is hard work and not auto-piloting to the max then this is why the devs dont listen to you.
    Glad I could prove your random assumption wrong. C:

    Let's just meet in the middle and say both are absolutely mindless and the devs should create something that isn't or at least incorporate harder aspects into the grind at later steps. As it stands right now, they're nothing else other than a new tome weapon and don't deserve the title of relic.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 05-02-2023 at 02:12 AM.

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