This game is on a terrible state right now.

[Renalt]

Graeham has always just been a parody on the story haters. The broken english is part of the bit.

Wait that was a bit? I just thought English wasn't his first language and that's why it was bad. However his broken english as a 2nd language is better than some people where English is their only language.

Is that guy still around?

[Theodric]

Oh hey Theodric. I missed ya. Yet there are many who do want death for death sake or because they have never liked that character and try to go into detail of how much they don't like said character. To the point of practically stating they'd throw a party and wish they could dance on that character's grave. Or that if people cried at any point during the story that they only did it for internet points. Or have never experienced a true loss in their life. And I'm sure there are people who do actually like fascist. I know you and I haven't seen eye to eye on many a thing if anything. Yet even in some discussions you evn have reacted in ways where if someone points out parallels to things take those things the wrong way. For instance I personally haven't held your liking of Garlean stuff to think that you enjoy said parallels when brought up. As you tend to write in a way that doesn't give off the impression that it's not just an aesthetics thing or how a character is written.

Meanwhile there are those who do write in such a way that when read by a lot of people it doesn't leave much nuance. To the point where it is very hard to tell if said poster isn't a fascist, hates women, just wants every character to die and to kick puppies. Only to get people to yell "stop trying to brow beat the minority or be thought police". I think we both know ignoring said posters or certain threads is easier said then done. As we both have made "why are you still here" posts. There have been some where a person goes back to a thread to continue a discussion with another poster about the topic. Normally in the past that was seen as the accepted thing to do instead of starting a new thread on the topic and having the Op come off as strange due to trying to continue a conversation that started in another thread. Had to snip some stuff out cause we write "books".

Each to their own, I suppose but I don't personally put much stock in drawing comparisons between people's preferences in fiction and reality. If someone is really enthusiastic about the Dark Brotherhood or Morag Tong in an Elder Scrolls game, for example, it doesn't usually equal that person being a serial killer/assassin for hire in the real world.

As for stakes and character death, I think it's simply a matter of personal taste. MMO's are usually designed to have broad appeal and cater to a variety of different preferences yet the main characters share the same opinions, morals and beliefs as one another and many are from the exact same in-game region. Compared to the variety of personalities we get in the single player Final Fantasy games the Scions are arguably very boring and 'safe'. Like a lot of the game's elements in general, arguably.

So some of us come to forum to voice such concerns. Not everybody is going to agree and that's perfectly fine but there's no reason it has to lead to grand conspiracies or mean spirited bad blood between specific posters.

I may very well be wrong in my viewpoint but my tentative view of the current trajectory is that the development team are doubling down on catering to the 'venue goer' crowd as a priority and pretty much everybody else is being left behind. That could very well change at some point but only time will tell for certain. Between the lack of an equivalent to Bozja/Eureka and the story deciding to do away with multiple ongoing plot threads all at once, though, for the foreseeable future I'll probably only be logging in during the free login campaigns. Especially since I've already carved out a niche for myself elsewhere.

[VelKallor]

Here is the actual clip - I went out to find it for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yF5MaYjvk8

So yes they do, YoshiP himself goes to raids like CT etc with players..he just drops in now and then.

[VelKallor]

I eagerly await the defense of why spending money animating food like the burger and Zero's dumplings is a better use of resources than allocating that animation budget to displaying pivotal events like the Sundering

Are you STILL on about this? Good Lord man....really...

[VelKallor]

Yoshida recently said that on patch days he'll log on and afk at one of the starting cities aetherites just to people watch or have the game noise going on in the background while working. Heck there have been people who are fairly sure they've had CC matches against him.

I would not be surprised. YoshiP has an impish sense of humour, I think he gets a small giggle at how players react when they see him.

[Alleluia]

Are you STILL on about this? Good Lord man....really...

I mean, that buuz was delicious looking.

[AwesomeJr44]

Each to their own, I suppose but I don't personally put much stock in drawing comparisons between people's preferences in fiction and reality. If someone is really enthusiastic about the Dark Brotherhood or Morag Tong in an Elder Scrolls game, for example, it doesn't usually equal that person being a serial killer/assassin for hire in the real world.

This is why I think the whole 'Zodiark cultists' thing is weird. Ok, so a person likes the Ascians more than scions. Why does this make them a cultist in real life again?

Compared to the variety of personalities we get in the single player Final Fantasy games the Scions are arguably very boring and 'safe'. Like a lot of the game's elements in general, arguably.

Agreed. The sad thing is that things didn't used to be this way. The story of Heavensward is one of my favorites from this game due to how each party member isn't an exact copy of the others. Each has a different personality, background, and general goal, and band together as they seek to accomplish a common goal that they happen to share, despite their differences. Estinien and Ysayle were especially interesting because they each had two opposing views on the external conflict, and that internal conflict made the story worth investing in. In recent expansions, all of that internal conflict is gone. When all of the characters agree on everything all of the time, they become boring and stale.

So some of us come to forum to voice such concerns. Not everybody is going to agree and that's perfectly fine but there's no reason it has to lead to grand conspiracies or mean spirited bad blood between specific posters.

You're probably right. Certain recent posts here still have me slightly curious as to how deep the rabbit hole truly goes, but I'd imagine that at worst, it's was just Renalt and a couple of his friends causing trouble, and nothing more than that. This is just a forum for people to give feedback, I'd imagine that people don't take this too seriously.

I may very well be wrong in my viewpoint but my tentative view of the current trajectory is that the development team are doubling down on catering to the 'venue goer' crowd as a priority and pretty much everybody else is being left behind.

I'm not sure if it's venue goer crowd specifically but I think you're definitely on to something here.

[VelKallor]

This is just a forum for people to give feedback, I'd imagine that people don't take this too seriously.

Yet you are one of those "conspiracists". telling people you think I am paid to post here. You blew ten years worth of credibility in one sentence.

Pot, kettle, over.

[SannaR]

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I so like the Dark Brotherhood mostly due to their faction having some of the better quest lines. That and the lore surrounding the Dark Mother I find fascinating. Said enthusiasm is fine. Yet there are things that one probably shouldn't admit to liking or finding fascinating to the public. Even if they aren't as you say actually serial killers or assassins. As that's how said comparisons have a better chance at being made.

I get and understand that for some the story more recently or even pre Ew didn't/doesn't feel as though it had any stakes. Yet, as I said there are those who do want deaths not to raise the stakes or to have the story to feel like it has a bite to it. Or if they do they don't make it clear. If not go and double down on the "no I just want them dead since I first met them." want.

Agreed people should be able to have a discussion where people aren't mean spirited or call one a shill ect right off the bat. However I feel as though this forum has tilted too much in that direction. Where a lot if not almost all opening replies start in that position. Or a civil discussion tries to happen only for one person to deal a low blow and it just goes down hill from there. Heck sometimes it's not even the people having the debate but a 3rd party that starts the mud slinging only for them to get back up.

And yet a lot of people grumbled and complained for two whole expansions and then some about Eureka and Bozja. Right after people had gone and complained about how ARR and HW relics were. Sometimes the playerbase and even the devs need a break from always having X in every expansion.

Look at Alliance Raids both Sb n ShB had cross overs for them. One I'd like to think was/has been accepted better than the other. People got burnt out on cross overs that they asked if not begged for the next one to not have any semblance of a cross over. Only to have some go oh man I seriously can't wait to have another cross over post EW fan fests. I am glad that you and I'm going to assume a certain some one else have found a niche somewhere else.

I do believe that if someone is feeling burn out or that a thing isn't for them any more to take a break from it. Or to just stop all together. As it's not healthy to continue. Just wish people wouldn't feel any form of shame and thus deny said feelings/realization that's what has happened. Not saying that's what happened with you. Just that's it's a thing that seems to happen.

[SannaR]

I would not be surprised. YoshiP has an impish sense of humour, I think he gets a small giggle at how players react when they see him.

He does come off as having that kind of sense of humor.