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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I support the in game notification of a pending house demolition. Not everyone is set up to receive SE emails for whatever reason given it is something people need to opt into if I'm not mistaken and may not even be aware they aren't or won't be receiving them.

    I doubt it would be a very hard thing for SE to code and would only affect those about to lose a house.
    No, because then people like OP never visiting their houses at all would go to it to cancel it, and it would remove the point of auto demo.

    It's fine as it is, people using their house keep their house, people not using their house lose it. There is scarcity, it has to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No, because then people like OP never visiting their houses at all would go to it to cancel it, and it would remove the point of auto demo.

    It's fine as it is, people using their house keep their house, people not using their house lose it. There is scarcity, it has to happen.
    I don't care if you don't support it I do. Would be a nice qol in my opinion with something as important as losing a house. People do get notified by email so an in game notification would be a welcome addition as well.

    I suppose they should stop email notifications as well to satisfy the take it away crowd. SE's intent is to LET PEOPLE KNOW the house is about to be demolished and this is just another way of letting them know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I don't care if you don't support it I do. Would be a nice qol in my opinion with something as important as losing a house. People do get notified by email so an in game notification would be a welcome addition as well.

    I suppose they should stop email notifications as well to satisfy the take it away crowd. SE's intent is to LET PEOPLE KNOW the house is about to be demolished and this is just another way of letting them know.
    Then they might as well just remove auto demo all together, because those never using their houses will get a warning and will go to their house, and then never use it again until the next auto demo warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Then they might as well just remove auto demo all together, because those never using their houses will get a warning and will go to their house, and then never use it again until the next auto demo warning.
    No not really. Personally I think a paying sub is all that should be needed. I think the intent was to recoup houses for those who quit the game. You can't even through away a piece of unique gear without a pop up asking if it's ok and have to click a check box before you can. A pop up warning for the loss of a house is something that should have been there from the start and adding it shouldn't be all that difficult in my view.

    You can push your opinion of what YOU would like to see but you're not the dev team and all opinions are welcome in threads like this one.

    I think you've expressed yourself multiple times already in this thread so YOUR OPINION is certainly known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No not really. Personally I think a paying sub is all that should be needed. I think the intent was to recoup houses for those who quit the game. You can't even through away a piece of unique gear without a pop up asking if it's ok and have to click a check box before you can. A pop up warning for the loss of a house is something that should have been there from the start and adding it shouldn't be all that difficult in my view.

    You can push your opinion of what YOU would like to see but you're not the dev team and all opinions are welcome in threads like this one.

    I think you've expressed yourself multiple times already in this thread so YOUR OPINION is certainly known.
    So let me ask you a simple question, and this is not a matter of my opinion, I'd like to know your opinion.

    Let's say I got a house, and I dont ever use it 45 days, then I see the pop up that you ask for, I go to the plot, remove auto demo, then ignore it again for 45 days, rinse and repeat.

    Do you think I am making use of the house I got ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Do you think I am making use of the house I got ?
    How one uses their house is their business.

    I'm not in favor of people holding on to housing they don't use. I have a friend who had been paying his sub for years logging in once in the 45 day period to renew the house so he could continue to live close to a good friend he's known for years who was an active player.

    I never personally understood why he did that given he wasn't using it, wasn't playing the game and he finally relinquished it when his friend died about a month ago.

    I think if people aren't going to use their houses they should give them up but whether or not people are notified of the impending demolition by mail or in game isn't the issue. SE's intent is to let them know its going to happen and the methods they use are up to them ultimately.

    As a side note the house of that friend is now being preserved as a memorial to that player who had quite a following in Novice Network. He is dead but they want to keep that house there as a memorial. Whether or not someone is actually going to use that house I do not know but they do plan to enter it with his account to keep the house there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    How one uses their house is their business.

    I'm not in favor of people holding on to housing they don't use. I have a friend who had been paying his sub for years logging in once in the 45 day period to renew the house so he could continue to live close to a good friend he's known for years who was an active player.

    I never personally understood why he did that given he wasn't using it, wasn't playing the game and he finally relinquished it when his friend died about a month ago.

    I think if people aren't going to use their houses they should give them up but whether or not people are notified of the impending demolition by mail or in game isn't the issue. SE's intent is to let them know its going to happen and the methods they use are up to them ultimately.

    As a side note the house of that friend is now being preserved as a memorial to that player who had quite a following in Novice Network. He is dead but they want to keep that house there as a memorial. Whether or not someone is actually going to use that house I do not know but they do plan to enter it with his account to keep the house there.
    Thank you for giving me your opinion, and obviously SE doesnt mind it, there's a reason why a "popup" timer hasnt been implemented, email and timer tab are good enough. But I'll agree to disagree so we dont run in circles

    As a side note the house of that friend is now being preserved as a memorial to that player who had quite a following in Novice Network. He is dead but they want to keep that house there as a memorial. Whether or not someone is actually going to use that house I do not know but they do plan to enter it with his account to keep the house there.
    I think that changes a lot though, I think houses like these should be "forced" out of auto demo so they stay in place no matter the timer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So let me ask you a simple question, and this is not a matter of my opinion, I'd like to know your opinion.

    Let's say I got a house, and I dont ever use it 45 days, then I see the pop up that you ask for, I go to the plot, remove auto demo, then ignore it again for 45 days, rinse and repeat.

    Do you think I am making use of the house I got ?
    Not OP, buuuut, no, I do not believe you are using the house. SE's system should be that you have to use the house twice on two separate days within that 45 day period in order for it to reset the autodemo timer. The autodemo timer warning popup should exist as a way to let the inactive house owner know what's inevitable.

    Say you have a house IRL (which I do) and you neglect to pay your mortgage or rent. Do you think the bank/landlord is going to accept a single payment every 45 days? No, payments are at least monthly. Do you think the bank/landlord would accept some sob story about how you're too busy to pay your contractual obligation? Not at all.

    Same with owning a house in FFXIV. SE is the bank/landlord. The gil you bought the house with was your downpayment and your rent/mortgage is to pay with your time to enter the house once every 45 days. They even warn you in advance of what will happen if you're late on payments.

    In conclusion, this thread is a farce, and everyone is wasting their time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    Not OP, buuuut, no, I do not believe you are using the house. SE's system should be that you have to use the house twice on two separate days within that 45 day period in order for it to reset the autodemo timer. The autodemo timer warning popup should exist as a way to let the inactive house owner know what's inevitable.

    Say you have a house IRL (which I do) and you neglect to pay your mortgage or rent. Do you think the bank/landlord is going to accept a single payment every 45 days? No, payments are at least monthly. Do you think the bank/landlord would accept some sob story about how you're too busy to pay your contractual obligation? Not at all.

    Same with owning a house in FFXIV. SE is the bank/landlord. The gil you bought the house with was your downpayment and your rent/mortgage is to pay with your time to enter the house once every 45 days. They even warn you in advance of what will happen if you're late on payments.
    Horrible analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    Not OP, buuuut, no, I do not believe you are using the house. SE's system should be that you have to use the house twice on two separate days within that 45 day period in order for it to reset the autodemo timer. The autodemo timer warning popup should exist as a way to let the inactive house owner know what's inevitable.

    Say you have a house IRL (which I do) and you neglect to pay your mortgage or rent. Do you think the bank/landlord is going to accept a single payment every 45 days? No, payments are at least monthly. Do you think the bank/landlord would accept some sob story about how you're too busy to pay your contractual obligation? Not at all.

    Same with owning a house in FFXIV. SE is the bank/landlord. The gil you bought the house with was your downpayment and your rent/mortgage is to pay with your time to enter the house once every 45 days. They even warn you in advance of what will happen if you're late on payments.

    In conclusion, this thread is a farce, and everyone is wasting their time here.
    Soooo in other words, you want SE to change it to 30 days instead of 45.
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