Ranked is mega unpopular even though it offers the same rewards as Unranked

[Towa-Musa]

You are wording it like everything else in this game would be done without any incentive behind it.

Look at Criterion. Technically cool content, but fallen to the wayside. Why? Because the incentive is shit if not nonexistent.

Prior to the release of Normal Raid and Alliance Raid roulette, how difficult was it to get into raids bsck then? Very, because turns out people value their time and want something for joining old raids, even if it is just a decent amount of EXP and tomestones.

MSQ Roulette got the insane boost to EXP and tomestones multiple times to encourage participation, especially after the cutscene lock.

And don't get me started on Frontlines. Back when you could freely choose between three maps, Shatter was the most picked because it was the fastest and simplest. And even then, they had 8v8v8 for low participation to let games start and Daily Challenge got added as additional incentive.

Rival Wings by the way is the perfect example of a casual mode struggling to breathe without dedicated community support like RevivalWings organised events or Moogle Treasure Trove because it turns out unlike Frontlines, it has no additional challenge daily to encourage daily participation and has the same base rewards as FL.

So much for that casual FFXIV argument. This is literally just modern game design, something players naturally align with.

So I'm sure you have a massive e-boner everytime you see one of my posts despite having claimed to block me and feel the need to call me buddy, pal etc. and try to one-up me with your snarky comments, but at least don't be a hypocrite like "the fact it needs incentive proves XY" when you can apply the same damn logic over the entire game.

what you said disproves literally nothing i said, infact you proved me right...
hell i'll even add to it by saying, if something is not deemed FUN in ff14 people wont do it unless there is enough incentive which is why you see ranked CC die but unranked flourish, the varient dungeons are in the same boat as CC lol people bullrush through it and walk away from it.

at this point you're just arguing for the sake of argument which.... kinda makes you look a bit silly :/

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

what you said disproves literally nothing i said, infact you proved me right...
hell i'll even add to it by saying, if something is not deemed FUN in ff14 people wont do it unless there is enough incentive which is why you see ranked CC die but unranked flourish, the varient dungeons are in the same boat as CC lol people bullrush through it and walk away from it.

at this point you're just arguing for the sake of argument which.... kinda makes you look a bit silly :/

I never intended to disprove it, I merely gave insight that reliance on incentive is something realistically every single activity in this game has in common to facilitate longterm play.

The fun argument obviously matters, but it is more delicate in CC. Regardless whether you play casual or ranked, you play the exact same game, the sole difference being:

- framer kits you likely just go and obtain once
- surplus Trophy Crystals hardly anyone cares for
- a more restricted queue attempting to build balanced matches

All in all, this means Ranked introduces stress points Casual doesnt have, in Ranks and rating. There is also the queue restrictions based on your Rank, which ups queue times to build matches.

Since there is frankly no simple incentive to play Ranked over Casual other than trying to play with the top end of PvPers for your own fun, it creates exactly what you describe:

Casual flourishes, Ranked dies.

Something simple like a ranked-only currency youd get from playing per match win and a bigger amount at season's end based on your skill tier would be a good start to set it apart from Casual. Like many games with Ranked/Competitive modes.

Naturally it should come with items of interest, which I am sure anyone has their belief on what that would be and something I won't judge anymore for their choice.

[Towa-Musa]

I never intended to disprove it, I merely gave insight that reliance on incentive is something realistically every single activity in this game has in common to facilitate longterm play.

The fun argument obviously matters, but it is more delicate in CC. Regardless whether you play casual or ranked, you play the exact same game, the sole difference being:

- framer kits you likely just go and obtain once
- surplus Trophy Crystals hardly anyone cares for
- a more restricted queue attempting to build balanced matches

All in all, this means Ranked introduces stress points Casual doesnt have, in Ranks and rating. There is also the queue restrictions based on your Rank, which ups queue times to build matches.

Since there is frankly no simple incentive to play Ranked over Casual other than trying to play with the top end of PvPers for your own fun, it creates exactly what you describe:

Casual flourishes, Ranked dies.

Something simple like a ranked-only currency youd get from playing per match win and a bigger amount at season's end based on your skill tier would be a good start to set it apart from Casual. Like many games with Ranked/Competitive modes.

Naturally it should come with items of interest, which I am sure anyone has their belief on what that would be and something I won't judge anymore for their choice.

ah well, you gaslighting earlier aside. im glad you and i are on the same page relatively speaking

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

ah well, you gaslighting earlier aside. im glad you and i are on the same page relatively speaking

Ill admit my word choice is a bit unclear at times, forgive me for that.

[Towa-Musa]

Ill admit my word choice is a bit unclear at times, forgive me for that.

im not worried about it dude, honestly imma just remove you from my ignore list since i noticed you're not THAT much of a gremlin compared to others and most of the time you are genuinely insightful and nice to people.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

im not worried about it dude, honestly imma just remove you from my ignore list since i noticed you're not THAT much of a gremlin compared to others and most of the time you are genuinely insightful and nice to people.

You do you, but Im just reminding you that I have strong stances on certain topics that you may heavily disagree with, as you sure know in the other thread.

[Towa-Musa]

You do you, but Im just reminding you that I have strong stances on certain topics that you may heavily disagree with, as you sure know in the other thread.

and thats FINE you can disagree with people and not be a goblin about it, im sure the people reading this post can already think of two people

[Reimmi]

Ranked would be a *lot* more popular if reaching top 100 let you pick a previous season top 100 reward

[Towa-Musa]

Ranked would be a *lot* more popular if reaching top 100 let you pick a previous season top 100 reward

wont ever happen.

[Reimmi]

wont ever happen.

Then ranked will continue to be dead because the main reward each season is in the battle pass now.