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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Then why do you keep engaging in debates here if you're just paying and whatever happens, happens? Your actions don't really match your philosophy.
    I'm here because I'm currently happy with the produce I receive ... in case you're missing the obvious. According to my philosophy, people like me being here is the natural order of thing, whether you and yours are the anomaly.

    Only according to my philosophy of course, your mileage may varied.

    Edit: oh, and in case you think I'm defending the game or I "like" Yoshi-P ... none of that crap. I always talk on behalf of nothing but my own interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I'm here because I'm currently happy with the produce I receive ... in case you're missing the obvious. According to my philosophy, people like me being here is the natural order of thing, whether you and yours are the anomaly.

    Only according to my philosophy of course, your mileage may varied.

    Edit: oh, and in case you think I'm defending the game or I "like" Yoshi-P ... none of that crap. I always talk on behalf of nothing but my own interest.
    Nah, it's just that you literally have no outstanding opinions of content or specific desires. It's all just defense.

    If you can prove to me that you dislike something, I won't think you're a mega white-knight yoshi slurper.

    Because even I applaud certain things, but I still judge, have wants, and needs as a player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Nah, it's just that you literally have no outstanding opinions of content or specific desires. It's all just defense.

    If you can prove to me that you dislike something, I won't think you're a mega white-knight yoshi slurper.

    Because even I applaud certain things, but I still judge, have wants, and needs as a player.

    Sure, knock yourself out.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ght=projection


    In case the link doesn't take you directly to it. Page 56 post #551

    Funny too, you were also posting on that very same page. But I'll give it another two month before you forgetting all about that again and accusing me a white knight who can't dislike anything about the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Because even I applaud certain things, but I still judge, have wants, and needs as a player.
    So what are your specific needs as a player that will not be confused with the things you only want as a player?

    Are you going to the right game to get those needs met?

    YoshiP has been pretty clear about what FFXIV will offer and that players should take a break to play other games when they run out of content they want to do in this one. FFXIV is not an "only and forever" game. We'll all intended to be playing other games.

    I know you've brought up feeling tied to the game by your house but your house is a want, not a need. Most adults learn to live quite easily without all the things they want, and to some extent they can manage if they're also lacking part of what they need.

    To rephrase something Raven said earlier, you're engaged in a consumer relationship with Square Enix. They have a game product and service they are selling. They provide a basic description of that product/service and the price they are charging to provide it. You as the consumer decide whether or not what they're offering is what you want and if the price is reasonable. You either make the purchase or you don't. You provide feedback on what you like or don't like.

    But that's as far as it goes. They owe you nothing beyond what the basic product/service description provides. If you expect more than what the basic descriptions include and are unhappy when you don't get it, it is your problem and not one that SE is obligated to rectify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
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    Oh I'm well aware. That's why I lapsed 3 subs and reduced my main account's retainers.

    So we'll wait and see how things turn out in the future.

    I'm just giving Raven a hard time. lol
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