AT THIS POINT in World of Warcraft

[Striker44]

How long are we going to continue parroting old content as something to do? You can fool new players, but you can't fool anyone that's played longer than a year.

You make it seem like everyone's running POTD. Are you?

And if someone that's been playing for years replies with "Yeah I still need to do it, so there's plenty of content to do" - That just means you don't do it at all and you probably just AFK in Limsa, as the meme goes.
How long do people think it takes to finish POTD or Eureka? You suck on the same popsicle for years too?

Depends how much time you have to play. I play a few hours a week. I've been playing on and off since 2015, and steadily as my main MMO for about 2 years now. I've done PotD, but I haven't touched HoH yet. I've done almost all of the ARR relic weapons, but I still need to finish leveling NIN and then go for that last one. Every time I log in, I'm actively playing and not "just going AFK" somewhere. I just have limited play time, and with the frankly immense amount of content that FFXIV has produced over the years, there's still plenty I'm yet to do. I still have a few paths left on the Variant dungeon, and haven't even touched Criterion or IS yet. I'm still in the 30-50 range for most of my crafting and gathering classes. That you would assume people "just AFK" because they still have a ton of stuff to do (because there is a ton of stuff to do) seems disingenuous.

[Atelier-Bagur]

How long are we going to continue parroting old content as something to do? You can fool new players, but you can't fool anyone that's played longer than a year.

You make it seem like everyone's running POTD. Are you?

And if someone that's been playing for years replies with "Yeah I still need to do it, so there's plenty of content to do" - That just means you don't do it at all and you probably just AFK in Limsa, as the meme goes.
How long do people think it takes to finish POTD or Eureka? You suck on the same popsicle for years too?

PEOPLE. HAVE. BEEN. ASKING. FOR. MORE. DEEP. DUNGEONS.

You guys literally have been asking for this. And for the record, a lot of people's reasonings for not still finishing content thats old is probably because they get distracted and take a break playing other shit and may be something that they'll come back later. Not every single person does every content. Just like some people havent gotten all entries in Sildih or have yet to max out their island and gotten its rewards or Im pretty sure some people forget that this patch also release crafter/gatherer relic tools.

So yeah this logic you're making is invalid.

[R041]

Depends how much time you have to play. I play a few hours a week. I've been playing on and off since 2015, and steadily as my main MMO for about 2 years now. I've done PotD, but I haven't touched HoH yet. I've done almost all of the ARR relic weapons, but I still need to finish leveling NIN and then go for that last one. Every time I log in, I'm actively playing and not "just going AFK" somewhere. I just have limited play time, and with the frankly immense amount of content that FFXIV has produced over the years, there's still plenty I'm yet to do. I still have a few paths left on the Variant dungeon, and haven't even touched Criterion or IS yet. I'm still in the 30-50 range for most of my crafting and gathering classes. That you would assume people "just AFK" because they still have a ton of stuff to do (because there is a ton of stuff to do) seems disingenuous.

No it just means you aren't touching those specific things. You can finish IS in a casual 2 days? HoH 1 day, Variant 1 day. Crafting and Gathering can also be done in about 1-2 days each. You can solo all of Variant in a few hours. lol

I guess if you only have like 3 hours a week, then you'd get most of those done in 2-3 weeks though. Not to mention IS is time gated, so it's perfect for you.

PEOPLE. HAVE. BEEN. ASKING. FOR. MORE. DEEP. DUNGEONS.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we also ask for more shit too. Not get a few floors after almost 5 years. HoH was in 2018. lol

Also no, this is mostly in response to people constantly telling other people to go run POTD, HOH, Eureka, Bozja if they want content. When all of that is on average 5 years old.

[caffe_macchiato]

You're forgetting the fact that Yoshida wanted to take the opportunity into making the next big mainline single player FF game. So good on him for achieving something he always wanted to do.

Now that's just wrong. The original poster said:

Devs also have a life, there's also budget so it's understandable if sometimes they take the easy way to solve problems (like the current fix for PLD, not adding instanced housing but instead just copy paste wards, etc).

Now you're telling us Yoshida chose to take on this workload, knowing that he'd have to "take the easy way" and cut corners with FFXIV? That's plain irresponsible. So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

So good on him for achieving something he always wanted to do.

What about us?

[Raven2014]

What about us?

Who is "us"?

[Nizzi]

Depends how much time you have to play. I play a few hours a week. I've been playing on and off since 2015, and steadily as my main MMO for about 2 years now. I've done PotD, but I haven't touched HoH yet. I've done almost all of the ARR relic weapons, but I still need to finish leveling NIN and then go for that last one. Every time I log in, I'm actively playing and not "just going AFK" somewhere. I just have limited play time, and with the frankly immense amount of content that FFXIV has produced over the years, there's still plenty I'm yet to do. I still have a few paths left on the Variant dungeon, and haven't even touched Criterion or IS yet. I'm still in the 30-50 range for most of my crafting and gathering classes. That you would assume people "just AFK" because they still have a ton of stuff to do (because there is a ton of stuff to do) seems disingenuous.

You spend more time on these forums giving SE the gluck gluck 9000 than you do actually playing the game, we get it bro. Those of us who actually play have done all that years old content.

[DixieBellOCE]

No it just means you aren't touching those specific things. You can finish IS in a casual 2 days? HoH 1 day, Variant 1 day. Crafting and Gathering can also be done in about 1-2 days each. You can solo all of Variant in a few hours. lol

I guess if you only have like 3 hours a week, then you'd get most of those done in 2-3 weeks though. Not to mention IS is time gated, so it's perfect for you.




Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we also ask for more shit too. Not get a few floors after almost 5 years. HoH was in 2018. lol

Also no, this is mostly in response to people constantly telling other people to go run POTD, HOH, Eureka, Bozja if they want content. When all of that is on average 5 years old.

The new gatherer tools take around 1.5 hours each (Except fishing, because i refuse to touch that).

That's.. an afternoon of content.. which was done basically afk watching YouTube.

There was no concentration required, it was just click 3 trees in a circle for an hour.

personally i find POTD mind numbingly boring for the first 10 hours until the later floors, and that is my reason for not doing it.

Everyone here kept telling me to go play world of warcraft if i want content, So that is exactly what i am doing, leveling my first character on there and so far, its not even that bad. the GCD is a little fast, but that makes combat a bit more faced paced, AOE indicators are terrible though, would be nice if they had more clear indicators.

Mob density is amazing so far, having more than 5 enemies in a grouping feels as if the class i am playing (warlock affliction) can actually use it's full kit, and all the damage numbers actually feels good.

[R041]

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Oh man, and I was even talking about 1-90 a whole ass Craft or Gather. Can literally be done in a day.

Also yeah, WoW has been pretty fun so far, actually gave it a try after all the XIV people kept saying it was shit all these years. It's extremely engaging in comparison.. I just hate the vague AoE swirlies, they're actual dogshit. You find a mod that fixes that.. Let me know. Also you can actually coop content in WoW, instead of playing make-believe that you're playing MSQ together.. :P

It's frustrating that XIV is struggling to keep up, and instead has now decided it doesn't even want to be in the race for that type of engaging casual combat content. But it honestly gave that up after Heavensward. lol

I think a lot of XIV's frustrations could be resolved by fixing the tick rate especially.

[Genbe197]

Why do people keep saying we lack content? We have the same content we have always had. Allaince Raid, Raid, Trials, Dungeons, Random Alt EXP content (deep dungeon/bozja) Random thing to do (islands) This is how FF has always been. Why is everyone pretending like it isn't lol

[DixieBellOCE]

Why do people keep saying we lack content? We have the same content we have always had. Allaince Raid, Raid, Trials, Dungeons, Random Alt EXP content (deep dungeon/bozja) Random thing to do (islands) This is how FF has always been. Why is everyone pretending like it isn't lol

Let me rephrase that.

We have the same 'watered down' version of content we have always had.

Many of the repayable aspects of previous expansions were replaced with One and Done content like Islands and Variants. There goes the combat content that kept people engaged during downtime, relic grind has been replaced with 'get 1500 tomes from doing exactly what you have been doing for the last 6 months of downtime'.

Endwalker is by far, my least favourite expansion in terms of content, and that says a lot considering Stormblood exists.