AT THIS POINT in World of Warcraft

[Atelier-Bagur]

Now that's just wrong. The original poster said:

Now you're telling us Yoshida chose to take on this workload, knowing that he'd have to "take the easy way" and cut corners with FFXIV? That's plain irresponsible. So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

What about us?

Im sorry to say but people do not you owe you anything. Just like game developers are not owed to stay in one project. These people most likely want to stretch their wings and gain experience working in multiple projects and it happens to a lot of developers in the field. What about us? In many of the interviews Yoshida has always expressed how he always wanted to be the producer to one of the main FF games. FFXIV was just handed to him and inherited a lot of its legacy and problems. It wasnt a project of his yet he stuck with it because he wanted to make this game good. Now that he has, he would like to take his crack on something he can create from scracth. FFXVI is his chance for that. And he also has gone on record that he would like to produce one more MMO before he dies (perhaps the 3rd mmo for the FF series?) so gaining experience in the field is always good for the developers, rather than staying stuck with one thing is usually not very good in the long run. You'd get burned out.

And even then you guys are acting as if he's just gone. He's still managing this game, despite people believing that its quality has deteriorated.

[caffe_macchiato]

Im sorry to say but people do not you owe you anything.

We pay $13 a month. We are the customers and Square Enix is not a charity.

[DragonFlyy]

We pay $13 a month. We are the customers and Square Enix is not a charity.

You pay $13 a month to keep the servers on. Beyond that, you pay for the expansion for content. If that content isn't to your liking, stop paying, and find something else that you enjoy.

[R041]

You pay $13 a month to keep the servers on. Beyond that, you pay for the expansion for content. If that content isn't to your liking, stop paying, and find something else that you enjoy.

Oh shit, where's the cash shop money go then? 'Cause it certainly isn't the server, that would be a risky business venture!

Do they use that money to make new cash shop glam? Wait, no.. That's not right, 'cause they just take random shit from the game and re-sell them. Hmmm.

Yeah I'm stumped!

[Nizzi]

You pay $13 a month to keep the servers on. Beyond that, you pay for the expansion for content. If that content isn't to your liking, stop paying, and find something else that you enjoy.

Wait, but you just said that the $40 for the expansion is for the content? How can they stop paying for the expansion when it's a one time purchase? I thought the $13 was to keep the servers on, not for the content?

[Raven2014]

Oh shit, where's the cash shop money go then? 'Cause it certainly isn't the server, that would be a risky business venture!

Do they use that money to make new cash shop glam? Wait, no.. That's not right, 'cause they just take random shit from the game and re-sell them. Hmmm.

Yeah I'm stumped!

Who made you pay for the game and buy stuffs from the cash shop?

We pay $13 a month. We are the customers and Square Enix is not a charity.

Exactly ... so why you keep paying for a product you're obviously not happy with. What happened to "vote with your wallet" ?

[R041]

Who made you pay for the game and buy stuffs from the cash shop?

Not the point. It's still a surplus that goes somewhere.

Also, Yoshi-P held a gun to my head and forced me to buy all of the Orchestrion Rolls. Said he'd also fire Soken if I didn't do it. Take us both out in one clean swoop.



So you're welcome.

[Raven2014]

Not the point. It's still a surplus that goes somewhere.

And?

I mean ... you're a customer, you give them money in exchange of a product. As long as you pay, you continue receive that product. At any point you're not happy for any reason, you can just pull the plug ... but I don't think you have a say on where they should spend the money you gave them.

I think you're mistaking being a "customer" and being an "investor". If you really want to have a say on dictating where SE should spend the money you give them, you gonna need to buy enough stock to sit on their board of director. I'm afraid to obtain the privilege of dictating a multinational company account is a lot more expensive than a mere $15 a month investment

So you're welcome.

Not sure what that even meant lol

[R041]

And?

I mean ... you're a customer, you give them money in exchange of a product. As long as you pay, you continue receive that product. At any point you're not happy for any reason, you can just pull the plug ... but I don't think you have a say on where they should spend the money you gave them.

I think you're mistaking being a "customer" and being an "investor". If you really want to have a say on dictating where SE should spend the money you give them, you gonna need to buy their stock and sit on their board of director.

God, I can hear the slurping sound from here.. You're a great customer.

Not sure what that even meant lol

Is joke. Mean I save Soken with my cash monee.

[Raven2014]

God, I can hear the slurping sound from here.. You're a great customer.

Nah, just a very practical one. ~20 years ago I used to believe in these pinkish mushy "fan and the developers" thingy BS, and then I got old enough to realize none of that means squat. These day I just treat as a strictly professional exchange. Cold hard cash for a product I want, if they can't give me what I want then I'll take my money elsewhere, simple as that.