AT THIS POINT in World of Warcraft

[Asphhar]

They said they play both. Both have positives and negatives. But some feel XIV has just a few more negatives in this current expac cycle for casual vets. It's not rocket surgery buddy.
Do you play other games? I bet you do. They don't have to be MMOs, but I bet you play something else and can make comparisons to some degree while also enjoying both.

Are you people exhausted with this dumb take? I see it too often, and nobody asked.

I see it all the time too, pretty much everywhere FFXIV has a presence. Shills hate it when their game gets some criticism. Unless they can add something decent to a discussion, I generally just blank them.

[R041]

I see it all the time too, pretty much everywhere FFXIV has a presence. Shills hate it when their game gets some criticism. Unless they can add something decent to a discussion, I generally just blank them.

It's funny, because the complete opposite is true for the WoW community. They've taken the differences and discuss them, and Blizzard has even implemented some of those changes. Like the custom GUI.
The general consensus from the WoW community is that XIV has a lot of great features, but is riddled with nothing-burger content, and the classes/delays/snapshots are bad in comparison.

It's actually a great thing that a bunch of players briefly quit WoW to play XIV. It kinda opened their eyes to new systems, and hopefully nudged Blizzard in the right direction to some degree.

I still wish they'd do away with the popcorn swirly danger spam though. I thought DF would have taken a better approach to mechanic display and maybe sharpened some of the vague random swirlies. If we can commend anything from XIV, it's that they do a wonderful job (most of the time) of making the boss mechanics very engaging and clear.

To me it feels like WoW has better underlying systems to allow for future growth as it currently stands. Where XIV I can see struggling to keep up moving forward. Even if we get an insane amount of content, we'll still struggle with the slow jank. I look forward to seeing what Yoshi does with 7.0+.

[grinkdaboy]

I see it all the time too, pretty much everywhere FFXIV has a presence. Shills hate it when their game gets some criticism. Unless they can add something decent to a discussion, I generally just blank them.

it's less shills and more spiritually dead people who have never had religion in their life/had religion in their life superceded by worshipping corporations