Paired Threads: What would it take to make Heaker kits "complex/interesting"?

[Osmond]

Issue with that is that WHM doesn't have shields, outside of Benison. The reason people want Stoneskin is because it's a GCD option for shielding that isn't limited by CDs. If it were SCH or SGE then it'd be a different story

And cleric being tied to their 2min makes it the same as Assize: ignored, pointless, just a 'side effect' of the 'more damage' button.

It’s why I said that the more ppl cry for solutions, the dumber it gets lol. I couldn’t make solutions even if I tried. I just look at why the devs made these kits the way it is and why they thought it was a good idea.

[Rilifane]

It’s why I said that the more ppl cry for solutions, the dumber it gets lol. I couldn’t make solutions even if I tried. I just look at why the devs made these kits the way it is and why they thought it was a good idea.

Which is on the devs for being out of touch and not properly listening and filtering.
I personally believe that they put the cart in front of the horse here. They saw that healers generally got fast invites (not as fast as tanks, by the way) and wanted to make sure that it's more even between tanks/ healers and dps so dps players don't have to wait for so long. So far, so good. But the solution wasn't to make them accessible but more fun. The solution wasn't adding incentives to give it a try to reel people in that will then get hooked because of the gameplay.
No, the solution was pancaking the skill ceiling against the skill floor, making everything as failsafe as possible so people who don't want to play healer and would never main it even when held at gunpoint would fill queues - alienating veteran healers in the process and trading a good portion of their stable, dedicated healer playerbase for a constantly rotating playerbase of non-healers.

BLM is and always has been one of the least played dps classes in endgame content.
But BLM enjoyers are BLM enjoyers and loyal. Now imagine if they decided "Yo, time to make more people BLM. What do we do?" and their solution is to nuke everything that non-BLM players dislike ("turret", has to plan movement, requires fight knowledge, has several timers to watch etc) - making the casts instant, making Ley Lines be attached to you like a hoopskirt, making UI/ AF into a buff with stacks and thus eliminating timers. It would still have Fire IV, Ley Lines and all, so it's still a BLM ... right?
I imagine there would be an outrage if they ever did this.
But it's exactly what they did to healers. And I can say with certainty that the veteran healers weren't the ones asking because they were around and healer players before the big pancaking happened. Just like the BLM veterans wouldn't dream of asking to making Fire IV instant and AF a 6 stack buff.