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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    If you've read my previous posts in this thread, my stance has always been that the Saga of the Zodiac Weapons is the start of the Zeta questchain.
    I'd love to know how you consider this to be "moving the goal posts" or "coming across as dishonest".
    Because whether you consider the Zenith weapons part of the Zodiac quest or not, they are in fact steps required to get them. Saying they aren't is just not true by fact, and the weapons even share the same design all the way to the Zeta step. But for the sake of argument, let's say Zenith is an entirely different relic. My point still stand and may be even stronger with this weird line of thought, because now you're telling me we could fully complete an entire Relic in two or three days, with each step taking no more than a couple hours tops. So: Short steps don't mean bad quests. Length has nothing to do with quality.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    My experience with the step tells otherwise.
    Not gonna argue this one anymore because I can't know what your experience was. Mine was a rather quick step. I don't think you're lying, but neither am I.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    The general statement of "just wait till x, it'll get better"
    I made no such general statement of quality of the sort. All I did was answer OP's question as to why I don't mind this step, which again: May not be the best, but it's far from the worst. I never said it's gonna get better or worse, that's beyond the scope of my argument. I said it's probably gonna get lengthier, and if it doesn't I'll just eat my words, but my argument about length has nothing to do with quality. They're separate elements, I can't stress this enough.

    You have all the right in the world to worry, but pretending this step is THE WORST RELIC QUEST STEP I feel is born out of ignorance as to how bad relic steps can actually get, or is just being alarmist. I don't think you're either.

    Calling this the worst step ever however is a plain overreaction.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 03-13-2023 at 10:22 AM.