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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
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    With as many content lulls we've survived through since 2.0 - Yes, housing is the game. Especially if you've owned an FC for every lull.

    Housing also keeps the markets alive through a lull because everyone's constantly re-designing their houses. So considering we get more lull than not, it is the game at this point. Because it's basically the only MMO content that's actually alive in the MMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    They can take a month off and then come back. I swear, people act like they lose everything for taking 30 days off. You have 45 days, 45 DAYS. You can log in on the final day of your sub, exit the game in your house, and then take a month off. Come back a month later, repay sub, enter the game and then enter your house, the house is now saved from demolition. By the Twelve, it's not a hard concept to grasp, but people clutch their pearls and act like they're being asked to sacrifice their firstborn child.
    We get patches every month? lol

    No, when I want to take a break, I'd take a break until next patch cycle. What psycho actually manages their sub like that? You people keep saying this as if it's a reasonable thing to do, to constantly micro-manage your sub to the point I have to set an alarm for every time I need to renew my sub throughout the year so I don't lose the house.

    Also, this doesn't take away from the fact that I'd still need to manage the sub itself for that whole period. You're actually making it more annoying in general by doing that. I'd rather just pay the damn sub and limit my Retainers. I want to NOT have a sub AT ALL for the WHOLE period of the lull.

    Straight up delusional, nobody's doing this in practice.
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    Last edited by R041; 03-12-2023 at 04:38 AM.

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  3. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    no they are not.
    You are correct! Whales apparently have a lot more money than you.
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  4. #133
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    these are just small patches- intended to provide filler content until a major patch comes out? isn't that to be expected? Do you expect massive content releases each update?
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  5. #134
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    We get patches every month? lol

    No, when I want to take a break, I'd take a break until next patch cycle. What psycho actually manages their sub like that? You people keep saying this as if it's a reasonable thing to do, to constantly micro-manage your sub to the point I have to set an alarm for every time I need to renew my sub throughout the year so I don't lose the house.

    Also, this doesn't take away from the fact that I'd still need to manage the sub itself for that whole period. You're actually making it more annoying in general by doing that. I'd rather just pay the damn sub and limit my Retainers. I want to NOT have a sub AT ALL for the WHOLE period of the lull.

    Straight up delusional, nobody's doing this in practice.
    Then I'll be honest, if I had the ability to remove your house from you right now while also refunding all the gil you spent, I would. Because if you're forcing yourself to play the game over a simple house, you have serious problems. If you want to take a break, then take a break, lose your house, why should it matter to you when you want nothing to do with the game until the next big patch? I really don't care about you losing your house, because if you're making yourself miserable, then remove what is making you miserable instead of wallowing in your sorrow. But no, we both know you won't do that, you'd rather blame SE then actually do something that you feel would be good for you, and that's taking a break. The only one keeping that house as a shackle is you. I bet you don't even use that house all that often.
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  6. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I'm not "fighting", first of all. Don't be so aggressive.
    ...Bruh
    That was Directed at @TomsYoungerBro
    Or is that secretly an ALT?

    Also...what Aggression? I said we Agree on these things...
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  7. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Then I'll be honest, if I had the ability to remove your house from you right now while also refunding all the gil you spent, I would. Because if you're forcing yourself to play the game over a simple house, you have serious problems. If you want to take a break, then take a break, lose your house, why should it matter to you when you want nothing to do with the game until the next big patch? I really don't care about you losing your house, because if you're making yourself miserable, then remove what is making you miserable instead of wallowing in your sorrow. But no, we both know you won't do that, you'd rather blame SE then actually do something that you feel would be good for you, and that's taking a break. The only one keeping that house as a shackle is you. I bet you don't even use that house all that often.
    I'm not miserable, I want to keep my house and play FFXIV Sims. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

    Stop being weird, you people make so many assumptions just because we're unhappy with some things. You so badly want us to be upset at everything and Yoshi.

    You're salivating at the idea that you can create a villain, it's pathetic.
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  8. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    With as many content lulls we've survived through since 2.0 - Yes, housing is the game.
    No, thats YOUR game. Thats not FFXIV. Thats not the point nor the Endgame of this MMO
    That is something you, and many people created for yourselves and has nothing to do with SE and Team.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Then I'll be honest, if I had the ability to remove your house from you right now while also refunding all the gil you spent, I would. Because if you're forcing yourself to play the game over a simple house, you have serious problems. If you want to take a break, then take a break, lose your house, why should it matter to you when you want nothing to do with the game until the next big patch? I really don't care about you losing your house, because if you're making yourself miserable, then remove what is making you miserable instead of wallowing in your sorrow. But no, we both know you won't do that, you'd rather blame SE then actually do something that you feel would be good for you, and that's taking a break. The only one keeping that house as a shackle is you. I bet you don't even use that house all that often.
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  9. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    No, thats YOUR game. Thats not FFXIV. Thats not the point nor the Endgame of this MMO
    That is something you, and many people created for yourselves and has nothing to do with SE and Team.
    And if it is my game? It's also a lot of people's end-game in an MMO. You know, the social part of the MMORPG.

    What's wrong with that? The idea that I want to keep MY end-game, while also taking a break. Requires I stay subbed.

    Why do I need to be attacked over my idea of an end-game? I'm not attacking you or the things you enjoy.
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  10. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    I'm not miserable, I want to keep my house and play FFXIV Sims. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

    Stop being weird, you people make so many assumptions just because we're unhappy with some things. You so badly want us to be upset at everything and Yoshi.

    You're salivating at the idea that you can create a villain, it's pathetic.
    No, I'm concerned that ya'll obsess over losing your house because you don't want to take a break, and then you make excuses for not even taking a single month off to prevent yourself from losing the house while still taking a break because you'd rather take multiple months off. A month off is still a month off man. Everybody needs a break, but stop making excuses for why you can't have one. Do some self-care, take that break if you want it, stop making excuses and do it.
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    Last edited by RyuDragnier; 03-12-2023 at 05:12 AM.

  11. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    They can take a month off and then come back. I swear, people act like they lose everything for taking 30 days off. You have 45 days, 45 DAYS. You can log in on the final day of your sub, exit the game in your house, and then take a month off. Come back a month later, repay sub, enter the game and then enter your house, the house is now saved from demolition. By the Twelve, it's not a hard concept to grasp, but people clutch their pearls and act like they're being asked to sacrifice their firstborn child.
    ...no they don't.

    If anything, I'm wondering who'd burst into flames the fastest if we're suddenly being so un-chill about it.

    Plus, the post you were quoting was comparing the perceived value between a title and losing a house to the people who do care about their plots. Regardless of whether you believe those things have value or not, no one clutched pearls xD

    And... Yeah, yours holds somewhat true if it's just "taking a break", but what if the break happens to be over 45 days? Again, why would we have to pay to keep a house, it's silly. The problem is the system, not the players. Nothing gets taken out if you don't resub for some time, why would this be? Because the system sucks? Then fix it xD
    And then you have reasons to be away from the game than just a break. Health, for example.
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