Well I think we at a new low .

[IkaraGreydancer]

Bozja had just as much content, would you have preferred I say we spent more time in BSF than we did in EW’s collective content because that’s still a totally true statement

I’m sorry but “playing for the content” not for the reward is for animal crossing, this is a PVE game and I don’t play troia to look at the scenery, im just gonna ignore the fact there is a world of difference between aurum vale as an example and troia as well and how that wasn’t really the crux of the original argument in HW but eh, if you want content to be completed in this game then you attach a useful reward to it, it’s why eureka is still done today, because it has desirable rewards and ones that met a lot of money

Again that content came out years ago. You didn't see my edit but I'll say it here. Those zones are created to burn your time. Trials are not created to do that for example. The level gating, the mettle grinding, light farming etc all of that is designed to burn your time so logic would dictate more time is spend in that especially if it came out years ago. Just the facts there.

Playing for content isn't just for games like Animal crossing. The fact you mention that game tells me you aren't a kid. I'll call it different upbringing but I didn't play something akin to Super Smash for a reward. I played because the game was fun. I didn't have to earn anything. I do fights like Innocence on different classes every so bit because I love that fight. I get nothing material from it, but the satisfaction is more than enough. Saying that will probably get me another label but whatever.

Yes there's a difference between the 2 brought about by the community itself. Devs did as the masses asked. People don't like long routes to get to their goal. Want proof? The concept of w2w and how antagonistic people are towards folks who dont do it. People will say they want these super in depth things but show thats not really the case in many facets.

[magitekLuna]

If Eureka worked more like Boz the time in would be cut drastically. The need to kill specific mobs and wait long periods to spawn things only served to artificially create longevity. Why most in an instance afked while the other 20 did the mobbing. Eureka caught heaps of backlash and I bet you if it had an alternative akin to Boz most wouldnt have or now chose to touch it. Ofc more time has probably been spent in content that came out years ago compared to things that haven't, especially considering that old content was designed with the goal to burn your time.

Dungeons are "garbage" thanks to the Vets who complained about dungeons like Aurum Vale years ago. And then the devs tried to bring that back in the form of Variant/Criterion. Because people don't play for the content n generally play for reward only that content died quick. Devs now need to pack anything they put out with reward or its not gonna land. Just how it is
I consider myself the average person and there's at least 3 weps I'm working to get from Orthos. And I see folks crowded around that areas popping in an out so I'd say it's doing just fine for the average player. At least the general 21-30 which has always been the case

what? "Because people don't play for the content n generally play for reward" ? what?
we played for the content . you do it ones for each variant and that is it. i did it for the content of it. what will bring people for longer is the reward.

[Stormpeaks]

what? "Because people don't play for the content n generally play for reward" ? what?
we played for the content . you do it ones for each variant and that is it. i did it for the content of it. what will bring people for longer is the reward.

Bet you the point they'll come back to is "but yoshi p said you should quit the game and play other games and come back next big patch !!!!", which is ridiculous as auto demo for houses is a thing, so you are forced to keep a subscription if you want to keep your house, because if it gets auto demo'd and its a medium or large, good luck getting another.

You can stop playing the game, but dont forget to pay your monthly subscription basically

[magitekLuna]

Bet you the point they'll come back to is "but yoshi p said you should quit the game and play other games and come back next big patch !!!!", which is ridiculous as auto demo for houses is a thing, so you are forced to keep a subscription if you want to keep your house, because if it gets auto demo'd and its a medium or large, good luck getting another.

You can stop playing the game, but dont forget to pay your monthly subscription basically

don't forget you will miss relevant gear if you want actively play the new patch harder content

[Aiyakiu]

This is just my two cents, but I honestly am fine with this relic step. There is soooo much content to do in FF if you're not a long time play-everyday player. Tbh I've been playing daily for 3 years now and I'm nowhere close being done with all content. I'm glad to have an easier relic this time around, I went nuts in Bozja and eventually I'll do Eureka, I'm just glad we have something different this time.

That being said, I have 100% faith 7.0 is going to be amazing. We are likely heading female Hrothgar and the graphical update, and I'm really hoping and praying updates to the character creator. If that means slow mid-expansion content then I'm fine with that.

[dspguy]

It really isn't clear to me what people are expecting, content-wise, from this game. I could pay $60 for an open-world game and still not even play a fraction of the time I would spend in just the content added on expansion day, let alone all of the patches that come out afterwards. It is a tall order to expect to be entertained for the last 15 months with all new content every time you login.

[Stormpeaks]

It really isn't clear to me what people are expecting, content-wise, from this game. I could pay $60 for an open-world game and still not even play a fraction of the time I would spend in just the content added on expansion day, let alone all of the patches that come out afterwards. It is a tall order to expect to be entertained for the last 15 months with all new content every time you login.

You pay for the expansion, but also for the subscription monthly, so that's a very moot point

[magitekLuna]

This is just my two cents, but I honestly am fine with this relic step. There is soooo much content to do in FF if you're not a long time play-everyday player. Tbh I've been playing daily for 3 years now and I'm nowhere close being done with all content. I'm glad to have an easier relic this time around, I went nuts in Bozja and eventually I'll do Eureka, I'm just glad we have something different this time.

That being said, I have 100% faith 7.0 is going to be amazing. We are likely heading female Hrothgar and the graphical update, and I'm really hoping and praying updates to the character creator. If that means slow mid-expansion content then I'm fine with that.

i don't want to sound rude and don't take it the wrong way but if in 3 years you did not do all there is to do (out side the most hard content) you just don't play the game.

[magitekLuna]

It really isn't clear to me what people are expecting, content-wise, from this game. I could pay $60 for an open-world game and still not even play a fraction of the time I would spend in just the content added on expansion day, let alone all of the patches that come out afterwards. It is a tall order to expect to be entertained for the last 15 months with all new content every time you login.

we play the same game here?

[Larirawiel]

Yes, it seems, that they have vastly overexaggerated it with "delivering the same over and over again". Many people seem not to be happy with this patch.


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