Well I think we at a new low .

[Supersnow845]

People I swear...

No it can't be pointless because the point of the thread is to offer praise which is feedback. You know? The thing forums are made for? Can we use our brains just a bit please...?

Hitting back on negative threads by saying “let’s all remember to praise the devs for the great game we have” which comes up way too often is pointless and your intent to “praise the devs” doesn’t make that thread any less pointless

Just as pointless whine threads like “relic grind bad” thread number 42 are also pointless

[Thaciscokidd]

I RARELY see a praise thread on this site and the rare ones I do see get bombarded with negativity. On the flip side negative threads pop up here everyday basically. Also how can a thread be pointless yet be a praise thread? The literal perspose is to praise something therefore per your own statement it can't be pointless.

If we call people putting up praise threads whiteknights then we have to call folks putting up te opposite haters in fairness. OR we can skip the labels n call things simply way they factually are

You just perfectly described the flow of this forum. There are no shortage of praise threads on this thing. Its just depends on what happens to be released at a given point in time. If its good contend the people who want to praise it will come out and praise it and get called white knights or when the content is bad/buggy/lacking the detractors will pounce and people will call them haters.

Each camp has there people ready to post if someone from the other came so much as hover over that post button.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Hate to agree, But i really haven't enjoyed anything in 6.x Shadowbringer did the game way better in all of its patches. Doesn't help they clearly don't know what their community wants anymore since they bathed the new weapons in the wrong color . .
Red for paladin? Seriously?

If you've enjoyed literally nothing in 6.x that seems more like a compatability issue with the game if anything. I personally couldn't call Pande crap for example. Fun fights, interesting story. BUT in fairness to each their own there

Also on the more jokey side I hope that last part is a meme. Can someone point me to a rule book saying what class gets what colors? I guess my pld having ruby weps is against the code lol

[magitekLuna]

i say it one more time as people for what ever reason ignore the main POINT here. its not that the content in its self is bad . its that the content DO NOT LAST longer that a weak if we in luck. after you hit lvl 80-90 its really not fun doing any ting under 60.

[Jojoya]

I spent about 4 hours tonight shepherding part of my Marilith FC through Wondrous Tails for their first time.

It was a bit of a mistake.

They're already overwhelmed by the amount of content they know about and have barely touched. Seeing all the things that were listed in their Wondrous Tails journals that they've never even heard of just made it worse. They actually asked me not to talk about all that other content for now. They want to focus on the other stuff they already know about without feeling even more burdened.

If you feel like the game isn't giving you enough that you want to do:

1) The game has given us years worth of content. Take another look at content you've mostly bypassed or haven't touched in a long time. Maybe now you'll find it to be interesting.

2) Take a look at your incomplete achievements. A lot of them are pretty dumb in my opinion but some may give you inspiration for things to do.

3) Be an actual mentor to new players instead of just someone that fills their Duty Finder parties. Show them all the game has to offer and pick up on their enthusiasm as they experience it for the first time. Remember what it was like to be a new player yourself.

4) Unsub and wait until enough new content has accumulated to make it worth subbing again. There are a lot of other good games out there. Give them your financial support so their developers can continue to make more good games.

5) Ask your parents/guardians to hire a better babysitter for you. Any adult is capable of figuring out what to do with their free time when their previous activities are no longer holding their interest but looks like you're still immature and have to rely on others to make those decisions for you. Not sure what you and your parents expecting when they're only paying the current babysitter $15/mo and most babysitters these days are charging $15/hour.

[Supersnow845]

i say it one more time as people for what ever reason ignore the main POINT here. its not that the content in its self is bad . its that the content DO NOT LAST longer that a weak if we in luck. after you hit lvl 80-90 its really not fun doing any ting under 60.

This is the crux of the issue, island sanctuary barely lasted a week, criterion died on launch day, the dungeons are still garbage, the relic has nothing to it, EO isn’t terrible but it’s only grindable if you go for deep dungeon challenges, it isn’t grindable to the average person

Say what you will of eureka but we all spend more time in anemos alone than all of the EW specific content out together

[magitekLuna]

This is the crux of the issue, island sanctuary barely lasted a week, criterion died on launch day, the dungeons are still garbage, the relic has nothing to it, EO isn’t terrible but it’s only grindable if you go for deep dungeon challenges, it isn’t grindable to the average person

Say what you will of eureka but we all spend more time in anemos alone than all of the EW specific content out together

as not a big fun of eureka (hated they way it was forced to work by the community) i say you are 100% correct. but its bring one more problem to it all, if there was no rewards in eureka will we be in it more that a weak? criterion's problem is not that its bad , more or less what we asking all dungeon to be. its that there nothing to get there, even less if the glam from it is not something you want.

[magitekLuna]

I spent about 4 hours tonight shepherding part of my Marilith FC through Wondrous Tails for their first time.

It was a bit of a mistake.

They're already overwhelmed by the amount of content they know about and have barely touched. Seeing all the things that were listed in their Wondrous Tails journals that they've never even heard of just made it worse. They actually asked me not to talk about all that other content for now. They want to focus on the other stuff they already know about without feeling even more burdened.

If you feel like the game isn't giving you enough that you want to do:

1) The game has given us years worth of content. Take another look at content you've mostly bypassed or haven't touched in a long time. Maybe now you'll find it to be interesting.

2) Take a look at your incomplete achievements. A lot of them are pretty dumb in my opinion but some may give you inspiration for things to do.

3) Be an actual mentor to new players instead of just someone that fills their Duty Finder parties. Show them all the game has to offer and pick up on their enthusiasm as they experience it for the first time. Remember what it was like to be a new player yourself.

4) Unsub and wait until enough new content has accumulated to make it worth subbing again. There are a lot of other good games out there. Give them your financial support so their developers can continue to make more good games.

5) Ask your parents/guardians to hire a better babysitter for you. Any adult is capable of figuring out what to do with their free time when their previous activities are no longer holding their interest but looks like you're still immature and have to rely on others to make those decisions for you. Not sure what you and your parents expecting when they're only paying the current babysitter $15/mo and most babysitters these days are charging $15/hour.

yes for new players there lots of things to do as you know its NEW TO THEM. what the older players need to do? you know new players don't have the problem of a new 6.x content being dead on day 1.

[IkaraGreydancer]

This is the crux of the issue, island sanctuary barely lasted a week, criterion died on launch day, the dungeons are still garbage, the relic has nothing to it, EO isn’t terrible but it’s only grindable if you go for deep dungeon challenges, it isn’t grindable to the average person

Say what you will of eureka but we all spend more time in anemos alone than all of the EW specific content out together

If Eureka worked more like Boz the time in would be cut drastically. The need to kill specific mobs and wait long periods to spawn things only served to artificially create longevity. Why most in an instance afked while the other 20 did the mobbing. Eureka caught heaps of backlash and I bet you if it had an alternative akin to Boz most wouldnt have or now chose to touch it. Ofc more time has probably been spent in content that came out years ago compared to things that haven't, especially considering that old content was designed with the goal to burn your time.

Dungeons are "garbage" thanks to the Vets who complained about dungeons like Aurum Vale years ago. And then the devs tried to bring that back in the form of Variant/Criterion. Because people don't play for the content n generally play for reward only that content died quick. Devs now need to pack anything they put out with reward or its not gonna land. Just how it is
I consider myself the average person and there's at least 3 weps I'm working to get from Orthos. And I see folks crowded around that areas popping in an out so I'd say it's doing just fine for the average player. At least the general 21-30 which has always been the case

[Supersnow845]

If Eureka worked more like Boz the time in would be cut drastically. The need to kill specific mobs and wait long periods to spawn things only served to artificially create longevity. Why most in an instance afked while the other 20 did the mobbing. Eureka caught heaps of backlash and I bet you if it had an alternative akin to Boz most wouldnt have or now chose to touch it.

Dungeons are "garbage" thanks to the Vets who complained about dungeons like Aurum Vale years ago. And then the devs tried to bring that back in the form of Variant/Criterion. Because people don't play for the content n generally play for reward only that content died quick. Devs now need to pack anything they put out with reward or its not gonna land. Just how it is
I consider myself the average person and there's at least 3 weps I'm working to get from Orthos. And I see folks crowded around that areas popping in an out to I'd say it's doing just fine for the average player.

Bozja had just as much content, would you have preferred I say we spent more time in BSF than we did in EW’s collective content because that’s still a totally true statement

I’m sorry but “playing for the content” not for the reward is for animal crossing, this is a PVE game and I don’t play troia to look at the scenery, im just gonna ignore the fact there is a world of difference between aurum vale as an example and troia as well and how that wasn’t really the crux of the original argument in HW but eh, if you want content to be completed in this game then you attach a useful reward to it, it’s why eureka is still done today, because it has desirable rewards and ones that met a lot of money