Well I think we at a new low .

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

because people have different opinions, what some may hate others enjoy

As much as I say that is partially true many and I say MANY people feel FFXIV has been declining and no this isn't because of a patch phase. It literally feels like FFXIV is declining in good quality content, lackluster reward system, slow gear progression and that is just a few things

[IkaraGreydancer]

But addons are against the ToS. :^)
Also, the masses were happy enough with lootboxes so I wonder why the government had to go and take that away? Come on, are you really going to use the masses are always right as an argument? I guess the new Saints Row reboot was really successful then~! lmao

I'm not saying the masses are always right. I'm saying something must be right IF that many people are still enjoying it in the sense of a game. Youre trying to equate liking a video game to gambling to prove a point when those dont equate. I think Fortnite is a trash game, yet player count says otherwise. Theyre doing SOMETHING right thats keeping people coming back. XIV must be as well. Also sorry but Saint Rows wasn't liked by the masses so that comparison is rather dumb. That game flopped, xiv hasn't.

And Kosa I did say seem. I'm going based on what I've seen myself. And things do seem to have a far more positive spin over there compared to here. (That doesn't negate the existence of said other sites you mentioned to be clear).

[caffe_macchiato]

4) Unsub and wait until enough new content has accumulated to make it worth subbing again. There are a lot of other good games out there. Give them your financial support so their developers can continue to make more good games.

5) Ask your parents/guardians to hire a better babysitter for you. Any adult is capable of figuring out what to do with their free time when their previous activities are no longer holding their interest but looks like you're still immature and have to rely on others to make those decisions for you. Not sure what you and your parents expecting when they're only paying the current babysitter $15/mo and most babysitters these days are charging $15/hour.

Fully agreed! I'm glad that you support us in holding Square Enix accountable. I think people who are dissatisfied with this patch should unsub for a good while. That's what I'll be doing and I encourage everyone else to do the same. Let's face it: FFXIV is the ONLY game that explicitly tells you NOT to buy it. It's the anti-game and anti-product and I'm all here for it. The notion that we ought to give a company our money blindly is the most cancerous idea to come out of late-stage capitalism. Save your money or spend it on a locally-owned and operated business instead of supporting Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. Strike them where it hurts and cancel your subscriptions.

NO GAMEPLAY, NO MONEY.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Every single addon we get the same people crying about how this or that patch is bad and they don't understand how people keep playing.

Newsflash: Stop doing stuff you do not like. No one is forcing you to keep paying your sub. Even Yoshida said so.

Yoshida needs a wake up of reality and realize that FFXIV isn't all rainbows and sunshine and there things that need to be addressed and highly wanted but instead gave us crap content like a Island sanctuary that died in less then a month

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Yeah let me just unsub and pray for patch is good in 4 months, oh wait my house is now gone

This has weirdly become the Go-To Defense. Your shackled to a videogame your not really enjoying....still paying a subscription despite hardly playing....all because of a Virtual House.

Its just weird, and sounds unhealthy

Yoshida needs a wake up of reality and realize that FFXIV isn't all rainbows and sunshine and there things that need to be addressed and highly wanted but instead gave us crap content like a Island sanctuary that died in less then a month

Is it really crap content if people are enjoying it though?

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

I think the issue is they're too busy with FF16 right now. I think it's in the final stages and this is always the worst time for any game in production. They're rushing to finish everything they can before the release date. I'm hoping once FF16 is done, Yoshi will be able to give FF14 his full attention.

There's a lot to look forward to still though. We have our graphical update, most likely female Hrothgar and I'm hoping with Hrothgar done Viera / Hrothgar headgear will finally be released, let alone everything that comes with an expansion.

Also, generally speaking, this time is usually the dead time for FFXIV. Just before an expansion announcement the game goes into a lull. It's a great time for people to pick up housing, catch up on content, and get ready for the big announcements in summer. If you're done with your character, it's a good time for a break or to work on Manderville weapons.

Pretty bad they had to pull him to make FF16 which may not be good who knows. They needed a saving grace because let's face it if FF16 fails SE is done. Their last FF games and other IP's have flopped and are bleeding money at this point.

[R041]

And Kosa I did say seem. I'm going based on what I've seen myself. And things do seem to have a far more positive spin over there compared to here. (That doesn't negate the existence of said other sites you mentioned to be clear).

Because the JP side of the FFXIV forum is basically dead. I'm not trying to be rude here, their forum is like 1/4th the engagement as the English side as far as I'm aware. Sometimes we even have 10x more engagement. So of course you're going to see generally more clashing.

Check it out, look at the actual post count.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...English-Forums
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...apanese-Forums

They just don't post here. They have different social media they post in, just like we do. Unfortunately for us r/XIV and r/XIVDiscussion are so heavily moderated, they delete almost anything that talks bad about XIV. So it skews the 'Doom' on these forums overall. We know we can get away with it, regardless if any dev reads our posts. I don't care if a dev reads my post, I'm trying to engage with the community I pay a monthly sub for without being moderated by psychos.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Again, personal opinion. The game gives me tons of things to do, easily worth the subscription. It's just as awesome and fun a game for me now as it's been the past many years. (And gotta love the guy complaining about 3.5-4 month patch cycles, while some other games have gone literally a year without a patch...)

yeah mainly solo stuff. PF is a complete joke. I love to join a group of friends and tackle mount farming and savage oh wait you have to meet people on this game that you hope are good people and not fake personalities. The community and game has gone downhill over the past couple years

[caffe_macchiato]

This has weirdly become the Go-To Defense. Your shackled to a videogame your not really enjoying....still paying a subscription despite hardly playing....all because of a Virtual House.

Its just weird, and sounds unhealthy

The only solution is to learn to live without FFXIV. Once we move on from this game in a mental sense, we lose the need to come back. We replace our precious virtual house with something better. The game will cease to be a permanently-online world like WoW, GW2, etc. and more like a trendy seasonal game that fizzles out quickly after a new update. At this point, it's clear that FFXIV was never meant to be the former and ought not to be treated as such. If Square Enix truly cares about money, they'll change their tune, but something tells me they really don't. And if they don't care, why should we?

Perhaps unsubbing for a good portion of players is the wisest solution, and not just briefly, but for a good long while. This game is replaceable; our time isn't. FFXIV is just a product that'll die anyway. People need to move on from it just like the millions who moved on from World of Warcraft when things went sour.

[magitekLuna]

Yoshida needs a wake up of reality and realize that FFXIV isn't all rainbows and sunshine and there things that need to be addressed and highly wanted but instead gave us crap content like a Island sanctuary that died in less then a month

it was stillborn . sadly same for the Variant and Criterion Dungeons. the dungeons are well made but a one time play as there nothing to get in there. the Island got some things to get but its so ungodly badly made .
Island second problem is its not instanced housing that for some reason the devs "cant make". but an Island 10 times bigger is ok. only i lost the logic train there?