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    Ggwppino Yarappoi
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    Louisoix
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Factually untrue.

    When determining "room for growth"...okay, first of all: DEFINE that, please. In concrete terms. What does "room for growth" mean?

    The most baseline you could play SMN (and still be playing the game) would be to press only the Ruin 3 button over and over again. That's the absolute braindead baseline.

    Above that, you have using DWT, 3 Primals (in a random order), FBT, 3 more Primals (in a random order).

    Above that, you have adding in your oGCDs and Ruin IV.

    Above that, you have putting all your oGCDs into burst windows.

    Above that, you have use of Primal based on boss mechanics (e.g. movement or non-movement).

    And above that, you have optimizing Primals into burst windows, shifting based on fight mechanics.

    And finally, you have some of the more esoteric things like spellspeed threshholds (which changes your actual rotation cadence and APM), if you really want get into the guts of perfect for each fight.

    .

    You presented a "graph" with no data.What is the axis on the left? 20 units of...what? "units of complexity"? What is "1 unit of complexity"? What is "60 units of complexity"? It's a meaningless picture with no data or factual basis.

    So I'll ask again: DEFINE that, please. In concrete terms. What does "room for growth" mean?
    1 hour: Oh I need to press all 3 buttons that light up, the order is not important
    2 hour: Oh I need to spam my basically single oGCD when i use my buff
    3 hour: Oh bahamut is sooo stronkk i think i buff there
    4 hour: Im a fucking pro with this class, wheew, now? What other class do I play?


    the hours change according to the player of course, but the smn offers this, that's it.

    It doesn't offer a mechanic that can be explored well by going months and improving yourself. With the old smn, to learn to play it, I'm not saying in a perfect way, but well, it took me weeks and when things fit right in, I was very happy, and I rejoiced when I was right and i didnt using too many ruins 3 or not wasting my resources (ruin 4) or taking everyone with the buff or not forgetting the dots.
    I used 5 ruin 3 instead of 4? Did I let the dots expire? Wasn't I making the most of ruin 4 or tri disaster? It doesn't matter, in normal-extreme content there is no dps check or it is very low. There is no need to perfect the rotation. There is no need, just have fun as you see fit. But the job gives you the opportunity to improve yourself, because it gives you ample room for personal growth. Clearly the more you demand, the more the complexity increases because you have to think about more things and pay more attention.

    Now everything is phoned, has autopilot, like gatchas. I mastered the new smn the first day I was at 90, which is the second day of pre-release. I mastered the smn that the game wasn't officially out lol.
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    Last edited by Ggwppino; 03-08-2023 at 09:19 AM.