Inevitable Job Simplifications?

[Connor]

Coincidentally, this is Renathras's whole point. People don't necessarily hate new summoner for what it is, but for what it took away. Meaning, if the game had both new AND old summoner, nooone would be complaining about new summoner.

Of course, and that’s a totally fair point. It makes total sense to want something they enjoyed that vanished one day for little reason to come back. That said, I don’t think it’s fair to say that people only like new Summoner because they want ‘carried’ by an ‘easy job’ etc. Surely it’s perfectly accceptable to like the new Summoner but also like the old Summoner lol. I know I enjoyed both versions.

As for ‘old Summoner’, I feel like they’re gearing up to release a pure DoT based job to replace it. Not only Summoner, but almost every class in the game has had their DoT abilities and interactions reduced, removed or otherwise reworked to be as minimalistic as possible. Which opens the door for them to design a full-on DoT based job that doesn’t have any auxiliary mechanics that need to be accounted for (i.e summoning). So new Summoner can stay ‘new’, but the ‘old Summoner’ playstyle can be redone somewhat to give the DoTs the full focus of the design

[Mikey_R]

As for ‘old Summoner’, I feel like they’re gearing up to release a pure DoT based job to replace it. Not only Summoner, but almost every class in the game has had their DoT abilities and interactions reduced, removed or otherwise reworked to be as minimalistic as possible. Which opens the door for them to design a full-on DoT based job that doesn’t have any auxiliary mechanics that need to be accounted for (i.e summoning). So new Summoner can stay ‘new’, but the ‘old Summoner’ playstyle can be redone somewhat to give the DoTs the full focus of the design

Well, I do suspect we will get another caster, so bring out the Green Mage.