Serious Point Allocation Discussion

[SionDurant]

See I have heard that argument about DEX, but I know a paladin who actually tanks very well may I add, and he misses the same amount I do without any DEX. But I also use two acc rings, and seafood to make up for my loss.

I just wish I hit harder for solo purposes. Does STR even dent your damage or is it a lot like other stats for us right now?

[FraenirVolsung]

See I have heard that argument about DEX, but I know a paladin who actually tanks very well may I add, and he misses the same amount I do without any DEX. But I also use two acc rings, and seafood to make up for my loss.

I just wish I hit harder for solo purposes. Does STR even dent your damage or is it a lot like other stats for us right now?

I was actually playing around with STR and MND last night before I used one of my stat reallocation items. I wanted to see how much of an effect STR had for PLD. I fought the same rank 50 Ixali outside of Natalan and only made one gear swap. I used a Cobalt Winglet with +30 STR then swapped it to a Cobalt Winglet with +30 MND.

The range of auto-attack damage spread out over 10 battles with each weapon was 146-172 with the STR Winglet, and 144-169 with the MND Winglet. This does not include crits and attacks while sentinel was up on the Ixali. The highest crit was 201 with the STR sword (no +crit attack equipped) and 198 with the MND sword.

Not the best sample size, but I also performed 10 non-critical Fast Blades with each sword and the averages for each were 438.67 with the STR sword and 442.89 with the MND sword. Again not a huge sample size, so take it with a grain of salt.

For solo/damage STR and MND seem to be fairly inter-changable. It seems as though the single biggest factor in damage is the physical attack stat. This might be obvious, but adding +ATK materia or gear will raise your damage potential more than adding an equal amount of +STR or +MND materia or gear.

MND does make a more noticeable difference for Cures. While it may not be a huge difference, +30 MND over +30 STR will create noticeable increases in HP cured by both Cure and Holy Succor. I have yet to test it, but just from eyeball observations last night I would not be surprised if MND is an additional modifier for Holy Succor.

[TirionCrey]

MND does make a more noticeable difference for Cures. While it may not be a huge difference, +30 MND over +30 STR will create noticeable increases in HP cured by both Cure and Holy Succor. I have yet to test it, but just from eyeball observations last night I would not be surprised if MND is an additional modifier for Holy Succor.

MND adds "Healing Stat Potency"...so it's obvious that it effects Holly Succor and Cure, since it does the same on WHM. Though direct Healing Magic Pot effects it more then MND.

[FraenirVolsung]

MND adds "Healing Stat Potency"...so it's obvious that it effects Holly Succor and Cure, since it does the same on WHM. Though direct Healing Magic Pot effects it more then MND.

Correct, but my point was not to state the obvious. I am still in the process of testing it, but I believe from what I have done so far that MND may be an additional modifier for Holy Succor outside of just what MND contributes to Healing Potency, ala how MND is a modifier for Flat Blade for example.

I am currently gathering a larger sample size before I will make any conclusions, but the trend in my presently small sample size is showing that adding a large amount of MND is creating higher numbers than adding just straight Healing Potency.

What I have been doing is equipping all the Healing Potency items I have and then casting Holy Succor with enough dmg taken that I do not hit my max HP when cast. Next, I'm taking off all Healing Potency items and equipping enough MND so that my Healing Potency is equal to that of when I'm wearing my Healing Pot gear. I am also repeating the process but casting Cure instead of Holy Succor with each gear set. If Holy Succor was based solely on Healing Potency the numbers should be equal whether I'm in the Healing Pot gear set or the MND gear set. So far, the trend is that the MND set is giving the higher average amount cured. With casting Cure, the average is almost identical regardless of gear set throughout the admittedly small sample size thus far. The sample size is still too small to draw any conclusions, but if this trend holds true over a much larger sample size, I think the conclusion would be that MND is an additional modifier for Holy Succor whereas other Cure spells may be based solely on Healing Magic Potency.

I'll post back with results once I have a chance to gather more data.