We should really update the reporting system

[Jojoya]

Defending poor behavior again? Those are your rules, not the rules of the game.

How hard is it to imagine that the people that get home in the evenings from work/school/both are way too tired to bother filling out a lengthy report when someone decides to act up in their roulettes?

What is this supposed to mean? I'm not defending any bad behavior. I'm not making any rules. The game has created the rule to use the Support menu to report other players.

It's not difficult to enter player name, time/date and what you found offensive. The form that comes up is just a guideline and not every field has to be completed, let alone in detail. Just include the relevant information so the GMs can see what happened.

If you're that tired after a long day, it sounds more like you're irritable and taking offense at things that a rational person would understand aren't intended to be offensive. You might feel better by taking your bad mood out on others but you're not accomplishing anything.

Again, if it truly is offensive it's worth taking the 2-3 minutes to complete the ticket so the GM understands why you found it offensive.

If you need a right click option to press just to make yourself feel better, try using the Blacklist option that appears.

They're suggesting that people who are turned away from reporting because of how irritating the reporting process is have not experienced poor behavior, and therefore even behavior that might break ToS is not offensive to begin with.

Also sounds like quite the assumption on your part. Have you never had such an awful experience where you just want to close the game and log off for a bit? Oh right, you can't unless you want the people that caused said experiences to go without punishments.

I was suggesting no such thing.

Are you having another one of your bad days after work, or something?

Hmm, let's see. Things I do habitually that are punishable under the current TOS? Expecting basic competence and decorum from other players. No matter how politely worded or what have you, indicating to someone else it would be beneficial for the group for them to do X instead of Y is a punishable offense, even should them doing X instead of Y be absolutely integral to succeeding. This goes far beyond common sensibilities pretty much everywhere. And yes, I have had consequences for precisely this thing. No, the wording I used when addressing the individual was not rude or demanding - it was phrased as a very non-confrontational request for the individual to do what was needed of them, coupled with an equally non-confrontational explanation of why it would be better for them to do X instead of Y.

As for being reported, anyone that feels the need to tell you they're going to report you probably isn't actually going to do it. If they do, the fact they felt the need to tell you has a good chance of biting them in the posterior. Of note, the GMs have a lot on their plates at any given time. Most investigations are cursory at best, going only in-depth enough for them to ascertain whether or not the thing being reported took place. The circumstances surrounding that thing occurring are largely irrelevant. For this reason, I believe you might have a little too much faith in the process.

I can agree with the basic decorum part without issue.

Basic competence tends to be subjective and some players just are not as skilled as others. Without knowing the all the specific details of a situation, I really don't have the ability to say whether or not I agree that something should have been reported and that GMs should have taken action against the reported player.

But I do know, as I said earlier, I've never been contacted by a GM for something I've done even though I've made suggestions to other players in parties before. Why were you contacted and not me? Again, I can't say since I don't know the specifics of your situation and what was said.

GMs are also human and sometimes will make mistakes in judgement. If it's just an isolated situation where the GM ended up contacting you, it's nothing to stress over.

But if they've had to contact you on repeated occasions, there is something about the way that you are handling those situations that probably could be done better.

This is where the related discussions about clarity comes in. SE's thinking is backwards if they think being vague corrects problems. It doesn't. There needs to be detail if the player is to avoid making the same mistakes again in the future. Most players aren't going to switch to revenge mode over a report if they figure out who the reporter was. They're far more likely just to avoid that player in the future to prevent any other issues. If someone were to engage in retaliation, either directly or through proxy, then that's someone that has no business playing a MMO and should be perma-banned.

[NekoMataMata]

What is this supposed to mean? I'm not defending any bad behavior. I'm not making any rules. The game has created the rule to use the Support menu to report other players.

It's not difficult to enter player name, time/date and what you found offensive. The form that comes up is just a guideline and not every field has to be completed, let alone in detail. Just include the relevant information so the GMs can see what happened.

If you're that tired after a long day, it sounds more like you're irritable and taking offense at things that a rational person would understand aren't intended to be offensive. You might feel better by taking your bad mood out on others but you're not accomplishing anything.

Again, if it truly is offensive it's worth taking the 2-3 minutes to complete the ticket so the GM understands why you found it offensive.

If you need a right click option to press just to make yourself feel better, try using the Blacklist option that appears.


I was suggesting no such thing.

Are you having another one of your bad days after work, or something?

Right, instead of making a decent counter point you just reiterate yourself and attack me instead.

You still have yet to explain to me how people can break the ToS(regardless of whether it is offensive and aggressive towards other players or not), and yet at the same time they may not feel encouraged enough to report them for it.