The Definition of "Handsome"

[HeyMcFly]

God made mankind

ma'am this is a ffxiv wendys' not a mental hospital. It's probably hard to tell the difference sometimes.

[TheMightyMollusk]

ma'am this is a ffxiv wendys' not a mental hospital. It's probably hard to tell the difference sometimes.

Our ice cream machine works.

[HeyMcFly]

Our ice cream machine works.

You got me on that one LOL

[Gemina]

Look what I find or don't find attractive isn't of anyone's concern, but this thread seems to indicate that more feminine or even just anything that is not bearded and scarred to hell and back is not a man and not attractive in any way. That is what I take issue with.

You're the one who made it anyone's concern. You stated this, remember?

Anyone else getting a little bit of a Titanman feel from this? "Only manly rugged bearded scarred men are handsome and attractive" really?

Personally, I don't care what you find attractive, but I asked you a genuine question. Because if you can read between the lines, you should know that these aren't the only traits that make a man, a man. However, these characteristics are masculine. So if you don't think masculinity isn't the only thing that makes a man attractive, then what is left? What is left are boyish, effeminate men. If there is something else, then enlighten me. And in order to do that, you will have to mention what you find attractive.

SE can put whatever kind of men they want in the game and being more or less feminine does not make them less or more of a man. Also, pretty sure this is a troll thread that you took way too seriously.

Is that so? And would you by chance one among the many who pushes SE to do things like lift restrictions on gear because of representation and "moar options"? If I looked through your posting history, how long would it be before I found something that is in support of this? So what about male representation of the manly man type? And not just in appearance. Why are so many male NPCs in this game simps? Why are there so few males like Lord Hein, Cid, and Gaius? Only thing prettier than a female Viera are the males, and Runar and the tears he sheds for Y'shola is the NPC who quickly comes to mind when it comes to the Hrothgar. Even big bad Zenos who comes off as masculine is one of the game's biggest simps. He simped after me [the WoL] like no one else; constantly seeking validation through battle, and it was the only thing that he was driven by.

Furthermore, what exactly about Aveyond makes him a troll? I've read many of his posts, and not once got that vibe. Is it because he comes off as contrarian who isn't afraid to say what other people won't? Because when he pushes against the narrative that is spun around here, it offends the easily offended? Hell, I guess that makes me a troll too. I will take it seriously because someone has to. Because no one else will.

and that's your standard as an adult.
Something you use as a base to find whether something is attractive or not.
And that's fine.
Just as fine as other people who think otherwise.
As I said, it takes all kinds.

It's interesting you quoted the only thing I admitted to as being the closest I've mentioned to a standard, but I don't think you know what standards are. A standard would be something you or I require in order to be acceptable and/or sufficient to be so. A measuring tool of sorts. In the case of attraction, my standards might be a male and/or female who is between the ages of XX to XX, be a certain height, race, of religious beliefs, social status, and amount of life experience. What I am mentioning to you and everyone else is what is, and what is not masculine. I've also mentioned that masculinity attracts femininity and vice versa. This is not a standard, this is how binary energies in the universe work. You can think otherwise if you would like, but it does not change this truth.

[VictorTheed]

::: points and laughs in atheist :::

Choirs of Angels sing the battle music & play thier instruments as heavenly light brightly & burningly shines down on our battle field.

We get face to face, u pull out the Necronomica ( whatever that book of the dead is), I laugh and say is that all u got foolish atheist, your weapon is as bankrupt as your belief system, I offer up a prayer to Jesus, the one & only God, and king David himself brings me the sword he slayed Goliath with & said use it well my brother in Christ, I give him a lalafells thumbs up.

I return to my face to face battle stance against you, baphomet appears and it seems I'm gonna get unfair fight against the both of you, but long behold a mighty trumpet sounds and the winds twist like a hurricane, the Arch Angel himself, Micheal appears, he said not on my watch heathen, it shall be your blood that will be shed today, then in a furious loud cry me and Micheal let out a battle shout saying PRAISE GOD and we run towards u & baphomet and slice your heads off and chuck your bodies into a Chick FIL A dumpster and we chain your souls up and deliver them to God for judgement.

The End.

[Senn]

I think male characters that look pretty, soft, or elegant are nice. I enjoy the kpop aesthetic personally. But I'm also down to see more masculine looking male characters as well. Variety is good.

That being said, there are plenty of masculine looking characters in the game already. Thancred, Hien, Cid, Ardbert, and Edmont to name a few.

[Gemina]

Nice to see a based individual around here for once, I went back and liked all your posts I seen, but don't waiste your time with the Alphabet Police, if they can't tell simple things like what is a man what is a woman then there is some bad things wrong with them, hell I might get banned for pointing out this sinple truth that's been around since God made mankind but hey someone has to stand up for basic truths 4 year olds know lol

I appreciate your support. While I am no saint, there are some good people here.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I think male characters that look pretty, soft, or elegant are nice. I enjoy the kpop aesthetic personally. But I'm also down to see more masculine looking male characters as well. Variety is good.

That being said, there are plenty of masculine looking characters in the game already. Thancred, Hien, Cid, Ardbert, and Edmont to name a few.

TBH between this and some other threads I feel like people will continue to claim there are no masculine male characters in game unless ultimate gigachad appears with 25 layers of muscles on him...

And then Godbert will 1 hit KO him with a suplex...

[aveyond-dreams]

I think male characters that look pretty, soft, or elegant are nice. I enjoy the kpop aesthetic personally. But I'm also down to see more masculine looking male characters as well. Variety is good.

That being said, there are plenty of masculine looking characters in the game already. Thancred, Hien, Cid, Ardbert, and Edmont to name a few.

Thank you for listing off a bunch of characters that have either been relegated to complete irrelevancy and no longer form a part of the main cast. The only men we have now are Estinien aka Alphinaud 2.0 complete with a ridiculous ponytail/preachy dialogue and Vrtra the uncanny KPOP idol. Neither of these two fill the niche that a Thancred or Hien do, though Hien is a better example of what I'd like to see given he doesn't have the weak neck most midlanders have.

As for Thancred - who was blessed with a nice looking goatee back in Heavensward, reverted to boy form upon being shaven. And for what? The dude is allegedly in his 30s yet the first time I saw him I immediately assumed he was a teenager. He looked more like his age with the facial hair, but now he's taken a step backwards.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

As for Thancred - who was blessed with a nice looking goatee back in Heavensward, reverted to boy form upon being shaven. And for what? The dude is allegedly in his 30s yet the first time I saw him I immediately assumed he was a teenager. He looked more like his age with the facial hair, but now he's taken a step backwards.

So wait....did you Mentally Erase everything you knew about Thancred, all because he shaved?
My goodness, are you ok dude?