Far Northern Attire

[hydralus]

You seem to be the type that only sees one side of things.

So you also want to deny that oil corporations are destroying the planet when all scientific evidence points to that being a fact? I mean sheesh.

[Zsolen]

So you also want to deny that oil corporations are destroying the planet when all scientific evidence points to that being a fact? I mean sheesh.

Vary your sources, and you will understand quite a bit more about things, not that I think oil companies are wonderful.

Or they could have done the reasonable thing and just accept the apology rather than handing over one of the most revered cultural symbols to the leader of the organization that did those crimes. Or are we going to act like not handing over a headdress for an apology is equivalent to stabbing them?

It was his decision. He is a chief. He was a victim himself. Your hatred would be a bit more understandable, if Pope Francis himself was involved. Do you even know what Pope Francis did that would earn respect?

[hydralus]

Vary your sources, and you will understand quite a bit more about things, not that I think oil companies are wonderful.



It was his decision. He is a chief. He was a victim himself. Your hatred would be a bit more understandable, if Pope Francis himself was involved. Do you even know what Pope Francis did that would earn respect?

Blindly following leaders is not a great point to take. A victim doing something wrong is still doing something wrong. If Pope Francis was just a person who helped Native people then that would be completely fine I'd have no issue. But he's not, is he? He's the HEAD of an organization. One that still has people who are alive that were complacent in taking children from the families. Try to consider the symbolism that carries. It would have cost them NOTHING to simply accept the apology and not done the thing that upset a lot of people.

Even the people who presented the headdress never want to actually face the criticism regarding it. "Believe what you want, you're entitled to your beliefs". Like they didn't even think about what they did, they just did it and can't understand why their own people are upset. It's absolutely bonkers.

But yeah as for how this relates to the attire in-game. Call me disillusioned. I don't care if the devs used ceremonial Native garb. It's obviously nothing special.

[Zsolen]

Blindly following leaders is not a great point to take. A victim doing something wrong is still doing something wrong. If Pope Francis was just a person who helped Native people then that would be completely fine I'd have no issue. But he's not, is he? He's the HEAD of an organization. One that still has people who are alive that were complacent in taking children from the families. Try to consider the symbolism that carries. It would have cost them NOTHING to simply accept the apology and not done the thing that upset a lot of people.

Even the people who presented the headdress never want to actually face the criticism regarding it. "Believe what you want, you're entitled to your beliefs". Like they didn't even think about what they did, they just did it and can't understand why their own people are upset. It's absolutely bonkers.

You are saying he is doing something wrong does not make him wrong. You are entitled to believe whatever you want, but you are not the authority on that. You just believe you are, which is no different from your oil stance. You believe you are the authority on that as well.

The headdress has a large symbolic meaning. That does not change, because you don't like a certain chief or the actions of said chief.

[hydralus]

You are saying he is doing something wrong does not make him wrong. You are entitled to believe whatever you want, but you are not the authority on that. You just believe you are, which is no different from your oil stance. You believe you are the authority on that as well.

The headdress has a large symbolic meaning. That does not change, because you don't like a certain chief or the actions of said chief.

I said WHY it is wrong if you bother to try and understand. I've said it three times now. If you're not going to argue a point then let's just stop conversing because I am getting no new enlightening information from you and you seem content with adopting their stance of 'believe what you want'.

[Zsolen]

I said WHY it is wrong if you bother to try and understand. I've said it three times now. If you're not going to argue a point then let's just stop conversing because I am getting no new enlightening information from you and you seem content with adopting their stance of 'believe what you want'.

It isn't wrong, from the perspectives of others, including the chief you hate.

You just believe only you have the answer. If it were up to you, there would never be a moving forward with anything. You will always look for something you don't like to justify your hatred both towards individuals and an entire religion of over 1 billion people.