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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    So you don't think there's something wrong with giving a sacred ceremonial headdress to the leader of an organization that actively worked to destroy your entire people's culture?
    You think it's best if this particular indigenous group keep on nurturing hate for the church forever? Should they throw a dagger at the pope in retaliation? They can't celebrate a figure like the new Pope which is far more understanding, for example?
    What next, they can't have cellphones or actively engage in current society?
    Acting like such gesture equals their headdress to a tennis shoes is so ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    You think it's best if this particular indigenous group keep on nurturing hate for the church forever? Should they throw a dagger at the pope in retaliation? They can't celebrate a figure like the new Pope which is far more understanding, for example?
    What next, they can't have cellphones or actively engage in current society?
    Acting like such gesture equals their headdress to a tennis shoes is so ridiculous.
    Or they could have done the reasonable thing and just accept the apology rather than handing over one of the most revered cultural symbols to the leader of the organization that did those crimes. Or are we going to act like not handing over a headdress for an apology is equivalent to stabbing them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Or they could have done the reasonable thing and just accept the apology rather than handing over one of the most revered cultural symbols to the leader of the organization that did those crimes. Or are we going to act like not handing over a headdress for an apology is equivalent to stabbing them?
    Even if you were right, and this particular action was wrong. What this has anything to do with the discussion we are having here? One act makes the milenar context around a headress unimportant? You still believe it's fair to compare it to a tennis shoes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Comparing video game attire to an indigenous culture's attire. Apples to monkeys.

    Why did no one tear apart the indigenous Native American attire that's in game? You know, the New World set? You know why? Because Native Americans aren't looking for a payday, and most Native Americans are proud to have their culture and heritage presented in many forms, including names, attire and ways of life. It still baffles me to this day that someone wants to be proud of a culture and/or heritage but is blasphemed for it because they didn't come from it, yet put their blood, sweat and tears into it. There wasn't even a stink about it on these forums with the exception of the war bonnet, which I can understand. But - they never removed it. And, they shouldn't remove it. Nor should they remove this set.
    Native americans aren't a monolith. One resolution of a group of people shouldn't also be the resolution for ALL groups that exist. There are so many discussion around movies like Pocahontas, Brother Bear and how they could've done better to the people that they were inspired by. There are many indigenous in south america, for example, that provide the same discussion over and over again regarding corporations making money with their culture, technology and arts and never providing something back to these communities. They're also in america, so? Again, stop cherry-picking whatever fits YOUR beliefs to act like the discussion around the subject shouldn't exist.
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