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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The differences are small things that don't stop them from looking extremely similar overall. The ways they look alike are big things – the combination of specific elements, colours, patterned sections, the very distinct mix of plain blue cloth and patterned red hems and highlights.

    I don't know whether the Saami Council is properly representative of the culture, or whether it's a fair thing for them to seek money. But I do know that artistically, those are very similar outfits, far more than any of the other images posted above.
    I guess we can overlook the fact that the shawl is artistically speaking.. a tartan. I havent heard of Scotland going after the Sami for "cultural appropriation" nor the other way around. I wonder why.

    the whole concept is a little out there. it wasnt done disrespectfully by offering a bikini or speedo version. to me, its a generic northern inspire outfit in a video game. trying to paint it as anything more than that is an unadulterated cash grab attempt. and if they DID get cash, where is that going to be spent? where are they spending the money from Disney? on lawyers? or to help their own community?

    not all attention is good attention, and this seems more like over reaching than much else.
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    Speaking of, Id like a proper Scottish skirt on au ra men especially, I think its called kilt idk
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Speaking off, Id like a proper Scottish skirt on au ra men…
    its a Kilt you owe me money or something now, I guess
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    Saying this generically, because I don't have any of the knowledge of what they actually do besides make demands when their culture is portrayed in media.

    BUT. The mere fact that they are seeking money does not immediately make them the villain. It depends what they want or indeed need the money for. If they want they money to do what they can to safeguard their culture, that's a very different thing to seeking it for personal profit.
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    *looks at the new world set*
    *sweats profusely*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    its a Klit you owe me money or something now, I guess
    How much to get you unoffended? D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Saying this generically, because I don't have any of the knowledge of what they actually do besides make demands when their culture is portrayed in media.

    BUT. The mere fact that they are seeking money does not immediately make them the villain. It depends what they want or indeed need the money for. If they want they money to do what they can to safeguard their culture, that's a very different thing to seeking it for personal profit.
    Most live in Sweden or Finland some of the most progressive nations on the planet, the only problem country would be Russia since Saami live there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    The male version shares no similarities apart from color
    That's exactly because, as you go on to say, they inexplicably used the female outfit (or an amalgamation that hews much closer to the female outfit) and made it unisex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's exactly because, as you go on to say, they inexplicably used the female outfit (or an amalgamation that hews much closer to the female outfit) and made it unisex.
    Is theirs the only culture that came up with, as I called it "a blue dress with a red rim hat and a red shawl"? As I said and as you left out of your quote, that is the only similarity between the digital and real life comparisons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Is theirs the only culture that came up with, as I called it "a blue dress with a red rim hat and a red shawl"? As I said and as you left out of your quote, that is the only similarity between the digital and real life comparisons.
    I don't think it is the only similarity. I think that all the similarities add up to a close copy overall.

    For what it's worth, I'm normally the one objecting when people say "all healer robes look the same" so it's not just a matter of me in all circumstances seeing similarities where others don't.

    If other people are certain that these costumes here don't look the same as each other, then I really don't know what more I can say.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 02-19-2023 at 02:10 AM.

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