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  1. #71
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    Ramiren's Avatar
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    Jaina Fuwi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I mean considering that it's a personal house, which gives nothing whatsoever, it's obviously for decoration, which there is nothing wrong with ?

    Why judge ?

    Why does everything have to be about profit all the time ? Cant someone just enjoy something without gaining money from it ?
    Rich people exist, and for rich people the cost of 7 subs is insignificant, compared to the bragging rights.

    It's a similar situation to whales on mobile titles, who drop thousands just to be top of some leaderboard.

    Always assume stupidity over malice, and there's nobody more stupid than rich people who don't know the value of money.
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    Last edited by Ramiren; 02-10-2023 at 07:35 AM.

  2. #72
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordSunny View Post
    Maybe because every other thread on this forum is a complaint about the lack of housing. It's almost, almost like it's relevant... Maybe if I squint hard enough.
    If they're paying for 7 subscriptions, it's within the rules. Since each service account can have 1 personal house on a server.
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  3. #73
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    You realise you're asking for the impossible right?
    There are 900 Large plots per world.
    They would need to add another 270 wards to our existing 30 to give the same opportunities for getting a Large.
    Then you have 3 houses per ward, all all the Mediums and Smalls sitting empty. You want to have your house in that ward?
    To make larges available to everyone, it would have to be a system different than the ward system we have now (with 3 larges per ward). I have a solution that might work... and technically SE has this capability in place already.

    Imagine a they add a new ward to each of the 5 districts. Each plot is laid out just like it is now, lots of smalls, a few mediums and fewer larges. You pick whichever plot you want. You decorate the exterior however you want. You decorate the interior just like you would for any house (presumably large for the sake of argument). I can own Ward 31, Plot 30... and so can you and you and you and you...

    How do we do this? The very same way that SE leverages what is actually on your screen depending on where you are in a quest line... like tribe quests or MSQ. You know how the world changes based on where you are in a quest line? Let's say the exterior of your house... looks like how you decorated it... just for you. So I walk up to Ward 31, Plot 30 and it has my decoration. And when you walk up, it has yours. And... within the scope of the plot of land, no other PCs are visible. So it isn't like we'd see each other at this plot of land. You click the door, it brings you to your instance of a house, not someone else's. I suppose there could be a way to visit someone that shares your plot... Other plots around you, the server maybe randomly picks which version of the plot to display to passersby.

    It isn't that far-fetched for an idea. Even when it comes to things you can interact with. My mining point spawns are only visible to me and not to you. What I pick up doesn't effect you whatsoever. Nor does what you do effect me. Make the exterior decorations the same way. If I have that campfire furnishing... you can't click it. You can't even see it. Nor can I see your stuff.

    I think they have most of this capability in place given what is in the game right now. They could pull off something like that.
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  4. #74
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    Zira Zira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You are on Maduin which is one of the many new worlds, there is more than enough housing available there.

    Also it's not up to you to decide if people want to buy 25 accounts and get 25 houses, what people do with their money is none of your business.
    This is still an MMO, we can give SE feedback to change the rules and stop allowing that for future wards so more unique individuals can get a chance at a house, along with closing other loopholes.
    Just like how they changed the house limit per account rule in the past.
    Again, nobody is naming names or making a call to arms or "judging", but some of you are so quick to get uppity about any type of comment giving feedback or in this case just simply asking a question lmao.
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  5. #75
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Well for starters, you are not playing FFXIV for the housing, no one should, it should not be the only motivation to play the game, mostly because when we speak of housing and the likes you got so many much better options that is not related to FFXIV at all.

    If you keep rolling on the big and mediums the probability that you lose is 10-100 times higher than if you go for just getting a small one, just saying... should try and get a roof over the head in the first place... any roof.. then you can always try and play the lottery with the relocating option, but should always set the goal to just get a house and get the most out of it once you got one, that is what matter most of all.. keep medium and large to the dreams... and if am lucky to win one of them on equal footing of everyone else who put in a bet on the lottery, then you may get an upgrade one day, but alwasy be happy to get something at least or you WILL end standing with empty hands in worst case scenario.
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  6. #76
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    Alonzo Vivas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Ok sure and then what once its decorated ? You'll stop playing again ? If anything people like you are the kind of people that SHOULDNT get a large.

    You literally dont log in at all except for housing, you will basically use up a large spot for no reason that will sit there since you do absolutely nothing in the game, while it could be enjoyed by an FC or a more active private buyer.
    People can play for whatever reasons they have.
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  7. #77
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordSunny View Post
    I just find it interesting and oddly weird --

    We just had our FC ward converted over into a private house ward. And someone went and made 7 different service accounts... just to buy 7 personal homes in the ring around the water in the Goblet. I'm not sure what the profit is here?
    They can't sell it like an FC. They don't get the Company Workshop perks.

    Is it just for decorating? Hoarding? Having nothing better to do than pay 7 different subs?
    How do you know it's one person with 7 accounts? Did you talk to them? Did they admit it? Is it possibly a group of friends instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

  8. #78
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    This is still an MMO, we can give SE feedback to change the rules and stop allowing that for future wards so more unique individuals can get a chance at a house, along with closing other loopholes.
    Just like how they changed the house limit per account rule in the past.
    Again, nobody is naming names or making a call to arms or "judging", but some of you are so quick to get uppity about any type of comment giving feedback or in this case just simply asking a question lmao.
    How is it a loophole ? The person clearly stated that the person took the plots as PERSONAL which means its from 7 different accounts.

    This is not a loophole, it works just as intended, one personal per account.

    There is no way to "play" or "bypass" the one personal house per account per world rule, absolutely none.

    If you see a problem with someone using 7 accounts to get more houses, I dont know what to tell you, some people collect cars, some people collect old coins, some people collect old bottles of coca-cola, or some even collect rocks, what people do with their money is their problem, and it shouldnt be yours or mine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    People can play for whatever reasons they have.
    That goes likewise for people with multiple houses, people do what they want with their game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiren View Post
    Rich people exist, and for rich people the cost of 7 subs is insignificant, compared to the bragging rights.

    It's a similar situation to whales on mobile titles, who drop thousands just to be top of some leaderboard.

    Always assume stupidity over malice, and there's nobody more stupid than rich people who don't know the value of money.
    Their money is theirs to use, if they decide to buy 100 accounts and to take over 2 entire wards or close to it, it's their problem, its not a loophole, they are buying new accounts which means Square is swimming in cash from these people.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    If they're paying for 7 subscriptions, it's within the rules. Since each service account can have 1 personal house on a server.
    This.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 02-10-2023 at 10:29 AM.

  9. #79
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    Regardless of what you want to call it, still submitting feedback to change the rule to one plot per unique customer.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Regardless of what you want to call it, still submitting feedback to change the rule to one plot per unique customer.
    Sure and how do you enforce that ? Do you remove the ability from people to purchase additional accounts ? Do you force flag those accounts ? Based on what ? A new account is like a new player, what you want does not and will never exist. It's not feedback, it's unfeasible.

    You literally cannot flag a new account to block them from getting a house, you just cant.
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