I am so, so tired...

[LordSunny]

Why would SE, a for profit company, shaft the whales who are willing to pay for multiple subscriptions?

This seems to ignore the fact that SE has historically made decisions that are often related to fairness, regardless of profitability (e.g. their gifting on mounts and ceasing distribution of codes is a good example).

Royalties aren't exactly everything to hosting game, and SE has proven time and time again that they have been attempting to patchwork solutions that benefit user experiences.
The lotto and consequent housing rules are yet another example.
Basic business dictates consumer satisfaction is what continues to have a thriving product, not whales.

And with 198 pages to the housing forums of people complaining of various (if not entirely the same) housing woes [wards being taken by one individual, lack of housing, etc.] it's not difficult to say that at some point, it could very well get addressed just like many other woes before it.

[LordSunny]

Problem is that those complaints are coming from people of over populated worlds and which are naive enough to think that throwing more servers for housing on those worlds would be the solution.

I'm failing to understand your point with this.

Are we all not playing the same game?

Just because the "biggest" complaint comes from a distasteful world/server doesn't make it any less of a community issue. Maybe the cries aren't as loud on Maduin, sure, but there 198 pages here on the forums that testify differently.

Should we instead be labelling it "Housing problems for everyone - except you, Balmung" ?


I've posted here only a handful of times, each about the lack of community that exists in this game and the forums really do prove that to be true. What a joke.

[Sindele]

The problem is that it's not a clean or easy problem to solve - it's easy to prove two accounts are related, but shockingly difficult to prove that two accounts are absolutely, positively the same person. Any simple method of targeting you choose is likely to come up with false positives or serious misses. More intrusive monitoring methods can get you way, way closer to accurate, but a) you'll still have trouble with some families and b) you start to risk running afoul of certain privacy laws. There's a reason they shy away from these things when it comes to the tools arguments, and it's no different here.

[Sindele]

Everyone should have a voice - but no voice is entitled to go wholly unexamined, either, especially when we're talking about proposed changes that directly and materially affect an existing population. You can certainly fault many people around here for their open hostility and unwillingness to compromise, but tone alone doesn't and shouldn't justify or invalidate the underlying points.

[ElysiumDragon]

...of this perpetual, 10-day cycle of disappointment. Every 10 days I lose. Every 10 days I set the game down for 24-48 hours because I just don't have any drive or desire to play it. Every 10 days I'm told "just move to another server," or "just keep trying, you'll get it," or someone inevitably gets on the forums to tell the people who are upset that they lose over and over and over and over and over that they're somehow wrong for being upset by it.

I'm just tired of this game making me want to quit playing it every 10 days strictly, and for no other reason than, because I am just unlucky.

I hope they change it. I don't know how many more 10-day cycles I can make it through.

You're on Mateus, the second-busiest server in the game. In all seriousness, what did you expect? There isn't a housing crisis, there's a "half Crystal's population is on either Balmung or Mateus" crisis. Moving servers would unironically increase your chances substantially.

[Rinoa_353]

You're on Mateus, the second-busiest server in the game. In all seriousness, what did you expect? There isn't a housing crisis, there's a "half Crystal's population is on either Balmung or Mateus" crisis. Moving servers would unironically increase your chances substantially.

They won't listen because reasons.....

[Jojoya]

You're on Mateus, the second-busiest server in the game. In all seriousness, what did you expect? There isn't a housing crisis, there's a "half Crystal's population is on either Balmung or Mateus" crisis. Moving servers would unironically increase your chances substantially.

Moving between servers on Crystal would accomplish nothing. The variance in population between Crystal worlds is pretty small. According to the most recent Lucky Bancho census, Balmung was highest with 13.7%, followed by Mateus at 13.5% for a total of 27.2% between the 2 worlds. Lowest population for Crystal was on Coeurl at 11.9%. The population on Crystal is fairly well spread out across all the Crystal worlds worlds.

It would be true that someone moving from one of the other NA data centers to a Dynamis world other than Seraph would have their chances substantially improved. But NA in general has been overcrowded for a good 4 years now. Even our lowest population world from among the original 3 data centers still has a higher population than EU's most populated world. The new data center with the 4 new worlds yet to be added will help but it only eases the ongoing problem, it doesn't fix it.

[Khryseis_Astra]

I think all Crystal worlds are currently classified as congested now, at least the ones I’ve visited lately. It announces it in the chat when you server travel now! lol Bryn has 246 plots left and most have over 10 bids apiece. I’ve only been here since Stormblood, so I don’t know what it was like before. But Bryn was a preferred world when I started because it was underpopulated then. The new servers will gradually fill in too. Some by existing players taking the free transfer, but probably mostly by new players joining the game. Just telling people to transfer isn’t solving the underlying problem: that the ward system, on it’s own, is never going to fulfill the needs and wants of the players. The whole idea behind housing was supposed to be fostering a sense of community… but those that haven’t been lucky enough to win a lotto are constantly being told to pack up and leave the community they’ve built up if they want to get a house. There needs to be a better solution than that.

[Sourcy]

Every crystal world is in fact currently congested, yes. Furthermore, every single house this cycle from Balmung (Lowest number of bids on open private owner plot currently: 23) to Coeurl (Lowest number of bids on open private owner plot currently: 3) has a minimum 3 bids on every small plot.

Balmung and Mateus (18 bids on lowest) have literally hundreds of players who have never owned a house who cannot get one. And anyone saying move to Dynamis should try themselves. The queues are awful, the economy is terrible outside of Seraph, and everyone just ends up DC traveling back to Aether or Crystal anyway. I see more Dynamis people on Balmung sometimes than actual native residents.

[Pratini]

Every crystal world is in fact currently congested, yes. Furthermore, every single house this cycle from Balmung (Lowest number of bids on open private owner plot currently: 23) to Coeurl (Lowest number of bids on open private owner plot currently: 3) has a minimum 3 bids on every small plot.

Balmung and Mateus (18 bids on lowest) have literally hundreds of players who have never owned a house who cannot get one. And anyone saying move to Dynamis should try themselves. The queues are awful, the economy is terrible outside of Seraph, and everyone just ends up DC traveling back to Aether or Crystal anyway. I see more Dynamis people on Balmung sometimes than actual native residents.

And the issue is...?

It literally takes 30s ~ 1min to DCT.

I pay that price with a huge smile if it means getting the best two plots in the entire game with close to no competition like I did.