Is there too much soy in this game's community

[Caddo]

Troll post or not, the online community has definitely changed over the past decade, that is for sure. I made a lighthearted joke the other day about seizures during Ultima Weapon (so bright, such light!) and was told it's not funny and I shouldn't make those jokes.

... I legit had to tell them that I made the joke because I take medication for seizures and I was pointing out the obvious drawback to this cutscene.

[Seraphor]

Troll post or not, the online community has definitely changed over the past decade, that is for sure. I made a lighthearted joke the other day about seizures during Ultima Weapon (so bright, such light!) and was told it's not funny and I shouldn't make those jokes.

... I legit had to tell them that I made the joke because I take medication for seizures and I was pointing out the obvious drawback to this cutscene.

I mean, one anal person making a comment like that, isn't a sign that the whole community has changed.

That said, not everyone is going to like it when you blatantly insult them and call it banter... TC.

"Wah! Why can't I be racist, sexist and homophobic anymore!"
I mean, it's not that you can't, it's just that people feel empowered to not take that kind of shit without calling it out anymore. Free speech is like that, people are free to disagree with what you say.

[Caddo]

I mean, one anal person making a comment like that, isn't a sign that the whole community has changed.

That said, not everyone is going to like it when you blatantly insult them and call it banter... TC.

"Wah! Why can't I be racist, sexist and homophobic anymore!"
I mean, it's not that you can't, it's just that people feel empowered to not take that kind of shit without calling it out anymore. Free speech is like that, people are free to disagree with what you say.

I mean, most of the policing I see from people aren't even racist, sexist or homophobic, it's just banter or light hearted commentary.

Comment "Oh ninja, when will you learn that orange candies aren't your friends? :P" after they die the 3rd time and they get super aggressive.

Mention "Hey tank, mind using some cooldowns on wall to walls a bit more? " and all of a sudden you get backlashed at for "telling them how to play".

It's like people can't take *ANY* criticism nowadays when you could comment on this and people would shrug it off, laugh it off or play silly back with you, but like I said. The online community has definetly changed over the past decade.

[Seraphor]

I mean, most of the policing I see from people aren't even racist, sexist or homophobic, it's just banter or light hearted commentary.

Comment "Oh ninja, when will you learn that orange candies aren't your friends? :P" after they die the 3rd time and they get super aggressive.

Mention "Hey tank, mind using some cooldowns on wall to walls a bit more? " and all of a sudden you get backlashed at for "telling them how to play".

It's like people can't take *ANY* criticism nowadays when you could comment on this and people would shrug it off, laugh it off or play silly back with you, but like I said. The online community has definetly changed over the past decade.

Oh that, that isn't even in the same ballpark.
In fact, I'd argue that is a symptom of a lot of aggressive banter.
People have been conditioned to think that every piece of criticism is meant in an accusatory manner.
Absolutely nothing to do with 'soy' 'woke' or 'snowflake's. It's the opposite, it's the inevitable result of 'testosterone fuelled' aggression.

[Hurlstone]

Oh that, that isn't even in the same ballpark.
In fact, I'd argue that is a symptom of a lot of aggressive banter.
People have been conditioned to think that every piece of criticism is meant in an accusatory manner.
Absolutely nothing to do with 'soy' 'woke' or 'snowflake's. It's the opposite, it's the inevitable result of aggressive 'testosterone fuelled' aggression.

Plus its not something particularly new either. The amount of rage quits I saw back in say, my WoW days over any criticism of mistakes vastly dwarfs the amount of stuff I have seen in FFXIV. Heck even back in my FFXI days, arguments against party members would break out over what is right/wrong, leading at times to people pulling a bunch of overlevered monsters to wipe the party before anyone could flee to a zone over petty things…

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

I mean, one anal person making a comment like that, isn't a sign that the whole community has changed.

That said, not everyone is going to like it when you blatantly insult them and call it banter... TC.

"Wah! Why can't I be racist, sexist and homophobic anymore!"
I mean, it's not that you can't, it's just that people feel empowered to not take that kind of shit without calling it out anymore. Free speech is like that, people are free to disagree with what you say.

I think what the person meant is that people don't have the backbone anymore of taking a insult and whine and cry about it. People need to grow some thick skin and learn how to take jokes once again without feeling insulted. Everyone wants to be serious these days and it isn't a fun world anymore

[DPZ2]

I think what the person meant is that people don't have the backbone anymore of taking a insult and whine and cry about it. People need to grow some thick skin and learn how to take jokes once again without feeling insulted. Everyone wants to be serious these days and it isn't a fun world anymore

If this were just about jokes, well. The OP was talking about insults and mockery, which are not jokes. The OP was describing both friendly and unfriendly banter, which are not jokes.

I welcome a response from writers who insist we "learn how to take jokes". Please provide a joke someone else complained about, so that we may interpret your level of pain.

[MaxCarnage]

If this were just about jokes, well. The OP was talking about insults and mockery, which are not jokes. The OP was describing both friendly and unfriendly banter, which are not jokes.

I welcome a response from writers who insist we "learn how to take jokes". Please provide a joke someone else complained about, so that we may interpret your level of pain.

All of The Simpson's characters are based on stereotypes. Stereotypes people can find offensive. Yet, it's still labelled a comedy. South Park openly mocks everything under the sun, bound to say something someone finds offensive or insulting, yet it is still a comedy. Dave Chapelle, Amy Schumer, and Chris Rock are all comedians that rely on mocking certain groups and situations, yet they are still considered comedians. It's almost as if comedy is subjective. So maybe you should stop trying to police what is and isn't a joke when humour is subjective.

As Rowan Atkinson has said; "Every joke has a victim, whether fictional or non-fictional or notional, ideological or human and, therefore, there's always someone suffering if there's a joke. I suppose you have to accept that's the way it is".

[Saraide]

All of The Simpson's characters are based on stereotypes. Stereotypes people can find offensive. Yet, it's still labelled a comedy. South Park openly mocks everything under the sun, bound to say something someone finds offensive or insulting, yet it is still a comedy. Dave Chapelle, Amy Schumer, and Chris Rock are all comedians that rely on mocking certain groups and situations, yet they are still considered comedians. It's almost as if comedy is subjective. So maybe you should stop trying to police what is and isn't a joke when humour is subjective.

As Rowan Atkinson has said; "Every joke has a victim, whether fictional or non-fictional or notional, ideological or human and, therefore, there's always someone suffering if there's a joke. I suppose you have to accept that's the way it is".

What makes a giant difference imo is wether as comedian you are trying to punch up or kick down.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

If this were just about jokes, well. The OP was talking about insults and mockery, which are not jokes. The OP was describing both friendly and unfriendly banter, which are not jokes.

I welcome a response from writers who insist we "learn how to take jokes". Please provide a joke someone else complained about, so that we may interpret your level of pain.

there are comedians out there that make jokes like this all of the time even 20 to 30 years ago. It was something like called being human. We all have defects etc and it's funny. That's what comedy has always been about then people go to thin skinned and forgot what it was like to laugh