The Official Forums is an EXTREMELY poor example of a "Good Community"

[WP1990]

Some people love this game and want to keep what makes this game great. Others want to see this great game burn for a variety of reasons. As long as these members exist. The official forums will always be a dumpster fire and no amount of discussing the matter will stop it.

[Kolaina]

Some people love this game and want to keep what makes this game great. Others want to see this great game burn for a variety of reasons. As long as these members exist. The official forums will always be a dumpster fire and no amount of discussing the matter will stop it.

Pretty extreme take. What are these people who want the game to burn saying or doing?

I do see many disagreements, but none that suggest someone wants to hurt this game.

Please provide examples of your accusation

[Leifei]

I'm mainly here for the entertainment, but glad you're doing better Renalt. As for the topic, some people will be civil during a debate and some won't. Tis life.

[VictorTheed]

My mother died as well, December 20th 2017 on a Wednesday in between the hours of 3pm to 6pm, she had MS and it finally killed her, way I got through her death was knowing she's in heaven not suffering anymore and when I die and go to heaven in the future I'll get to be with her again, so my condolences to you and your family for your loss and hopefully my story helps u in any small way.

Other then that, I have zero faith in humanity, or even in myself, only in Jesus have I felt my faith being put in a sustainable thing.

People are people, if there heart is in something they won't change unless a traumatic or super joyful event happens to them, facts we'll only use if it benefits us and we'll twist em to meet our liking that's my opinion on myself and my fellow man.

A time to love, a time to hate, a time to heal, a time to kill, and so on.

[WP1990]

Pretty extreme take. What are these people who want the game to burn saying or doing?

I do see many disagreements, but none that suggest someone wants to hurt this game.

Please provide examples of your accusation

I'm grasping at straws dude. Nothing ironclad. I'll wholly admit when I am relying on hunches.

[Kolaina]

I'm grasping at straws dude. Nothing ironclad. I'll wholly admit when I am relying on hunches.

So stirring the pot with hyperbole. Creating something from nothing

[Zaniel]

I didn't read 11 pages of replies but this forum is EXTREMELY small compared to other MMOs I have played, even ones with much smaller playerbases. If you read WoW's forums or even a smaller game like Warframe you will hardly see the same people posting twice (other than a few regular trolls). Here? Literally every post is one of the "usual suspects" (on any particular side of a viewpoint).

When you get small population samples like this, the people posting tend to be extremists in a general sense and so views are condensed right down to the far ends of each limit of the bell curve. Just picking numbers out of the air in somewhere like WoW you have 1% of the population posting and 99% ignoring the forums and that's already super concentrated for opinions, then you come here and its like 0.01% posting and 99.99% just playing the game. There is no way that is conducive to broad-based, population representative discourse, in fact I would pretty say every single OP in this forum holds extreme or generally unrepresentative views (regardless of topic or side).

[WP1990]

So stirring the pot with hyperbole. Creating something from nothing

No more like making a statement and not willing to spend hours sifting through forums to validate my reasoning to a bunch of people that have 0 impact on my life. I have more important priorities.

[Amenara]

I didn't read 11 pages of replies but this forum is EXTREMELY small compared to other MMOs I have played, even ones with much smaller playerbases. If you read WoW's forums or even a smaller game like Warframe you will hardly see the same people posting twice (other than a few regular trolls). Here? Literally every post is one of the "usual suspects" (on any particular side of a viewpoint).

When you get small population samples like this, the people posting tend to be extremists in a general sense and so views are condensed right down to the far ends of each limit of the bell curve. Just picking numbers out of the air in somewhere like WoW you have 1% of the population posting and 99% ignoring the forums and that's already super concentrated for opinions, then you come here and its like 0.01% posting and 99.99% just playing the game. There is no way that is conducive to broad-based, population representative discourse, in fact I would pretty say every single OP in this forum holds extreme or generally unrepresentative views (regardless of topic or side).

To be fair, there is an actual shot (albeit extremely small) that a blue will respond to your topic if it is a worthwhile discussion on the WoW forums. I'd imagine the FF14 forums would be a bit more popular if there was any semblance of SE caring about our opinions at all here.

[Kolaina]

No more like making a statement and not willing to spend hours sifting through forums to validate my reasoning to a bunch of people that have 0 impact on my life. I have more important priorities.

Uh huh. You see, it only takes 1 person to state a false and / or exaggerated statement to cause trouble.

You say some people want to see the game burn but can’t provide any proof or examples. It only takes 1 person believing your statement to start spreading this untruth. So I’d like proof that your claim is true. Otherwise you’re just telling a big fish if a tale for whatever reason