Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

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House hoarding isn't part of the shortage problem? Sure it isn't. It's not like there haven't been threads posted on here with people showing entire wards owned by single individuals across multiple servers or anything. Nah, that couldn't be part of the problem.

I love how sarcastic you are about it. Have you bothered to check the house bid counts and the amounts per size and per plot? No, the few wards in one or two zones a couple of shitty people managed to destroy on Mateus, and likely one other server in particular are not the reason. Key word is "part." Thats why I used the word "outlier." They're not empathetic about it, and it doesn't help, but it would still be roughly about as bad even if they weren't there. Hilariously, maybe the reason Square Enix turns a blind eye to them is because they pay their subs; which should be further proof to you that they simply don't care as long as they make more money. Perhaps not the kind of community you should try to foster?

The lottery system seems to be working for a lot of people and if other people really, really want a house like they claim then they should care about the smalls. Just because they're not the "ideal" house they are often disregarded.

That's because smalls suck, and people actually don't want them almost as much as they don't want apartments. Their decoration count is pitiful and they afford little to no space for more complex building. Something not being "ideal" shouldn't be the objective when you have the ability to make it "ideal.

My server is one of the most populated on the data center and I haven't had any issue with any content since transfering. I also never told anyone to abandon anything if they didn't want to and by the way, I have a medium and a small so make of that what you will.

I'm sure everyone on either coast of the US would have spectacular ping on Oceanic and European servers. Smalls aren't worth transferring to another datacenter over for, that's for sure.

So basically you know diddly and are just full of hot air.

That means everyone you previously cited as reliable as to why instanced housing can't work also is a clueless, stupid idiot and doesn't know anything.

What's worse? Saying "respond to this horrible problem and/or fix it" or saying "They cant fix it!!! this guy in the thread made shit up so no money would fall out of SE's pocket!"

At least I bothered to do the math and look?

And most of their profits get pulled into other projects. XIV pretty much keeps Sqeenix afloat.

So it's their fault?

The ward system is inherently fine. It was the initial inception which is the problem when they didn't limit the number of houses people could own to begin with.

No? There aren't enough houses for everyone, and there aren't enough houses in the sizes people want them to be. So it isn't fine, it sucks. This is a video-game. When things aren't fun about it, it's bad. If I wanted a similar experience and thought it'd be fun, I'd entertain myself by throwing some dice in an alley.

As long as people keep subscribing and logging in then to them everything is fine.

That's what I mean by "how and where they should be spending their money." Eventually they'll stop. If you've played for long enough, you'll also realize they've continuously added less and less with each expansion beginning with Heavensward, despite charging the same price, in both assets and content. Housing isn't the only thing they're being cheap about. Far from it. The game grows almost exclusively due to it's community and the writing.

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So basically your whole schtick is that Squeenix isn't giving you everything you want up front and you're pouting, as evidenced by

That's because smalls suck, and people actually don't want them almost as much as they don't want apartments.

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There is literally no need for anything more than a small really. Larger houses offer no benefit outside of a larger gil sink and ego. They offer no additional benefits. If you really wanted a house you wouldn't have such disdain for smalls.

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whatever

Your shtick is that you pay them to play and they use it to fund crap that doesn't take off and they put barely any of it back into the game, which makes you a sucker. If they profit so much from FFXIV, the expectation should be that they make FFXIV better. I would be doing the same thing if I owned a large house, just like I was against placard spamming despite always owning one. I'm thankfully not an asshole, so I can care about things that aren't just myself. Which is why I'm personally not interested in relief that simply affords me or a select few other people a chance to get a house they want, and more of one that allows anyone to decorate any size they want; because that would serve everyone.

You can direct that sentiment to everyone who wants a larger house, your egotistical-self included, since you have a medium.

All houses offer no benefit to the game's other content outside of the garden you put in the front, which was another facet of why they should be accessible to everyone, including people who want a large and have the gil to pay for it; who would then get to use 3 of them at once as opposed to 1 (so technically, you're incorrect).
In addition to FC housing, which actually has no benefit to perservering on larger houses, since the company workshop is functionally the same. And again, mostly benefits itself as a content island in that an absolute ton of sub items are minions and other aesthetics like furnishings (for a house.) Or selling those things for money. Whoops? Articulating it for like 10 seconds there made me find another reason how it actually does affect shit! Who knew?

Outside of the more obvious shit, like the decoration and size limits? You know there's no actual reason the inside has to match the size of the outside too, right?

That was never in dispute. But acting like because it's not necessary to do anything else doesn't mean its not important or that it should be disregarded. It's pretentious and disingenous at best that you think that people who don't want smalls should be satisfied with them when this doesn't have to be the case.

You also didn't disprove a single thing I said, all you did was try to psycho-analyze me. Kind of unhinged of you. Also more unhinged of you to change servers and then accuse people of pouting when they aren't content with SE not half-assing everything. Perhaps that's why it was so easy for you to leave.

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Your shtick is that you pay them to play and they use it to fund crap that doesn't take off and they put barely any of it back into the game, which makes you a sucker.

Which is what you're also doing, but OK. If the game got to a stage where I was unhappy with it then I would quit. It's just that simple.

If they profit so much from FFXIV, the expectation should be that they make FFXIV better. I would be doing the same thing if I owned a large house, just like I was against placard spamming despite always owning one. I'm thankfully not an asshole, so I can care about things that aren't just myself.

Expectations and reality often never meet. That's just the size of it.

You can direct that sentiment to everyone who wants a larger house, your egotistical-self included, since you have a medium.

It was there, I was there, I had the money and bingo. I didn't go into it expecting a medium or any house and it wouldn't have bothered me if I hadn't gotten one at all. Circumstance doesn't equate ego. Going into it expecting to get one and then getting pissy when you don't kinda does though. If the medium wasn't an FC house I would sell it and use my small, but that's not how the system works.

All houses offer no benefit to the game's other content outside of the garden you put in the front, which was another facet of why they should be accessible to everyone, including people who want a large and have the gil to pay for it; who would then get to use 3 of them at once as opposed to 1 (so technically, you're incorrect). In addition to FC housing, which actually has no benefit to perservering on larger houses, since the company workshop is functionally the same; and again, mostly benefits itself as a content island in that an absolute ton of sub items are minions and other aesthetics like furnishings (for a house.) Or selling it for money.

That was never in dispute. But acting like because it's not necessary to do anything else doesn't mean its not important or that it should be disregarded. It's pretentious and disingenous at best that you think that people who don't want smalls should be satisfied with them when this doesn't have to be the case.

I never said it should be disregarded, but to openly scorn and disregard the majority of housing units because you personally think they suck is also pretentious and disengenous. As much as the old system sucked at least if you had a small you had a chance for an upgrade, but that wasn't good enough either apparently.

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Also more unhinged of you to change servers and then accuse people of pouting when they aren't content with SE not half-assing everything. Perhaps that's why it was so easy for you to leave.

Ah, a ninja edited dig.

You nothing about why I transfered servers, but please, do continue making assumptions.

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Which is what you're also doing, but OK. If the game got to a stage where I was unhappy with it then I would quit. It's just that simple.

So the most desirable outcome is anyone who is unhappy with it should quit and unsub without saying anything. Smart.

Expectations and reality often never meet. That's just the size of it.

This is good how? What do you think feedback is for?

It was there, I was there, I had the money and bingo. I didn't go into it expecting a medium or any house and it wouldn't have bothered me if I hadn't gotten one at all. Circumstance doesn't equate ego. Going into it expecting to get one and then getting pissy when you don't kinda does though. If the medium wasn't an FC house I would sell it and use my small, but that's not how the system works.

You were allegedly there because you deliberately moved to a foreign DC for the purposes of getting a house. But I still think you're a cool cat for pretending it wasn't a big deal to you.
There's also no benefit to owning a medium as an FC. You said it yourself. It's just ego. You spent the extra gil for nothing; not knowing about the gardening, I guess. That's not ego? Maybe you should choose your words a little more carefully instead of having an image problem about how seriously you take it because you want to appear stoic or something. I'm not interested in your fan club.

I never said it should be disregarded, but to openly scorn and disregard the majority of housing units because you personally think they suck is also pretentious and disengenous. As much as the old system sucked at least if you had a small you had a chance for an upgrade, but that wasn't good enough either apparently.

Jesus Christ. You're acting like I hurt the small's feelings. Do you want me to write an apology?
It's pretentious to say they suck when they objectively have less space and lower decoration limits? It's not disingeous to insinuate that people who aren't happy given that fact should just be happy they get to have anything at all? Do you know what the words I use mean?

I literally don't care about the old system and I would prefer if we stop talking about it because almost everyone seems to agree that the lottery is better, but the fact of the matter is is that it still sucks. The previous system supported RMT and house-trading and house-flipping. That's far less than ideal. I personally think relocation was fine, even in spite of that because I'd be capable of it due to the fact that I was willing to placard spam, and of the net 0 effect I'd have on land for relocating; but obviously they're both objectively bad because of the fact that people are displeased about the size distribution. I'd still be here talking shit about it even if placardspam/relo was still here, because there'd be an influx of people playing who simply can't participate in this part of the game.

Ah, a ninja edited dig.

You nothing about why I transfered servers, but please, do continue making assumptions.

You already told us why you transferred. I'm joking with you, but you want to be a cynic and assume anyone who is dissatisfied is just selfish and entitled if they dare to talk about it. If you'd refrain from white knighting the million dollar company by personally attacking people and making stupid assumptions about them as well, maybe someone in North America would've let you decorate their small house.

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So the most desirable outcome is anyone who is unhappy with it should quit and unsub without saying anything. Smart.



This is good how? What do you think feedback is for?

When did I ever say you should never say anything? The point is if it seems like they are moving in a direction you don't like no matter what you say then throwing a hissy fit serves no purpose. Your best bet is to just cut your losses.

You were allegedly there because you deliberately moved to a foreign DC for the purposes of getting a house. But I still think you're a cool cat for pretending it wasn't a big deal to you.
There's also no benefit to owning a medium as an FC. You said it yourself. It's just ego. You spent the extra gil for nothing; not knowing about the gardening, I guess. That's not ego? Maybe you should choose your words a little more carefully instead of having an image problem about how seriously you take it because you want to appear stoic or something. I'm not interested in your fan club.

I guess that one was on me not being specific. My friends were the ones who transfered for the housing and they convinced me to come along. To me housing was just a side interest. All I wanted was to play with my friends. So the reasoning is the same, but the target was not. My bad.

Jesus Christ. You're acting like I hurt the small's feelings. Do you want me to write an apology?

Yes.

It's pretentious to say they suck when they objectively have less space and lower decoration limits? It's not disingeous to insinuate that people who aren't happy given that fact should just be happy they get to have anything at all? Do you know what the words I use mean?

So you have a 1 in 25 million chance to win 1 of 3 prizes but because one of those prizes isn't quite as good as the others you complain. That is pretentious. It's like winning 10 million dollars and complaining because it's not 200 million.

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When did I ever say you should never say anything? The point is if it seems like they are moving in a direction you don't like no matter what you say then throwing a hissy fit serves no purpose. Your best bet is to just cut your losses.

You imply it by continuously asserting that any actual solution is impossible and by misappropriating it to a small subset of people who take up a relatively also small subset of space considering all of the wards. Collectively, everyone does that by being a contrarian and defending their insular forum community from any kind of feedback just because you believe it will never do anything (which it does, and can, i.e male Viera.

No. Though I'm fine with unsubbing. I'm personally fine with signal boosting and encouraging people to talk about it here as well as other platforms, as well as the validity of their concerns whilst people like you and the other guy who insinuated it was entitlement a few pages back exist.

I guess that one was on me not being specific. My friends were the ones who transfered for the housing and they convinced me to come along. To me housing was just a side interest. All I wanted was to play with my friends. So the reasoning is the same, but the target was not. My bad.

Did you give them this talk too? Why didn't they just buy apartments?