Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[ameliaw]

The "same" FC taking over the entire ward is also a problem in and of itself. But it's within SE's legal parameters, so there's not much that's going to be done about it.

As for the open plots, even if the Goblet is an underappreciated housing district (which it is, let's not deny that, people...), there's also the fact that some of those plots might be open due to relocations. So it's not like every single one is vacant out of choice, some literally just opened up but are locked until the next round. So on that note, I'm giving it some benefit of the doubt.

I posted a while ago that my own FC's ward in the Empyreum, a popular location for housing, had a bunch of plots open. Those likely happened to relocations. So stuff like this is normal, and it's not telling people to bid for them that's going to change it.

Deceptus's post is pointing out at the "same" FC taking over several plots. And if this is possible and a recurring problem in more crowded servers, then it's still a problem, regardless of how many plots are available at whichever location. This could be happening in the Lavender Beds too, it wouldn't matter. The problem Deceptus is pointing toward is this being a possibility to begin with. Not whether or not there are plenty of plots open.

Goblet FC plots never sold out in Behemoth. It's not an issue at all here, since 6.1.

[Deceptus]

The issue in this picture is that the ward is deserted because no one wants goblet, and these people are taking the plots that no one wants. Which in itself is not an issue at all, there's also PLENTY plots available in that same ward as well.

Roulette is still going on and those plots aren't finished.

Housing is housing and every FC plot another grabs up is one in the future that can't be accessed by a new FC looking to establish themselves.

Hey I love Goblet, especially 19/49 are my favorites in there, there's that one Roe flexing in front of it all the time !

Except FC's dont want Goblet, as shows that picture, only 4 "real" fcs are in there, while the rest would have been empty without the few plots that the other person took.

Because the "premium" ones would attempt to be obtained first and then when not acquired, FC's would go looking to wherever they could get, in this case, would have been Goblet if 7thBR wouldn't have swallowed them up.

This is on a FC ward, why do you care? They won't remove the FC ward restriction and FC plots are so easy to get that this barely matters.
Besides, 7thbr is a very large FC. They could be using different members to create these instead of alts, so SE wouldn't be able to do anything anyway.

Why are you defending FC's taking more than the 1 alotted spot they're supposed to have? The only reasons a FC would do that that are

1) Vanity (because they can)
2) The player / alt using the "FC" plot as a personal house with is against the TOS.

[Stormpeaks]

Roulette is still going on and those plots aren't finished.

Housing is housing and every FC plot another grabs up is one in the future that can't be accessed by a new FC looking to establish themselves.




Because the "premium" ones would attempt to be obtained first and then when not acquired, FC's would go looking to wherever they could get, in this case, would have been Goblet if 7thBR wouldn't have swallowed them up.



Why are you defending FC's taking more than the 1 alotted spot they're supposed to have? The only reasons a FC would do that that are

1) Vanity (because they can)
2) The player / alt using the "FC" plot as a personal house with is against the TOS.

It's not agaisnt TOS, that's first of all.

And for the second part, they didnt "swallow them up", no one bid on them. It was uncontested. If people decided to go to shiro, mist, lb or empy, that's on them, those people decided to go to goblet where it'd be uncontested, good on them.

[Reinha]

Housing is housing and every FC plot another grabs up is one in the future that can't be accessed by a new FC looking to establish themselves.

If there ever is too few FC plots the devs will just allocate another set of wards for free companies. Free companies will always have priority. They get to place more bids and shop around in FC wards with plenty of options and no competition.

The reason why houses run out has never been the existence of free companies, but the existence of personal housing. There will never be enough houses because as soon as a ward is opened up to personal buyers, every single plot will be filled in a short amount of time. No matter how much we are given, we need more.

Let's be real here. New FCs of the future are not the real reason people are mad about "undeserving" free companies buying plots. In people's minds those houses in a free company ward are just personal plots waiting to be released to the public and free companies are cutting the line. People are unwilling to make an FC to buy these plots and would prefer FC wards to rot unused until they are opened for personal buyers.

[ameliaw]

2023 and We're STILL seeing multiple instances of a single FC trying to take over a ward, on a populated server no less. THIS.SHOULD.NOT.BE.HAPPENING.

This is on a FC ward, why do you care? They won't remove the FC ward restriction and FC plots are so easy to get that this barely matters.
Besides, 7thbr is a very large FC. They could be using different members to create these instead of alts, so SE wouldn't be able to do anything anyway.

[ameliaw]

Roulette is still going on and those plots aren't finished.

Housing is housing and every FC plot another grabs up is one in the future that can't be accessed by a new FC looking to establish themselves.




Because the "premium" ones would attempt to be obtained first and then when not acquired, FC's would go looking to wherever they could get, in this case, would have been Goblet if 7thBR wouldn't have swallowed them up.



Why are you defending FC's taking more than the 1 alotted spot they're supposed to have? The only reasons a FC would do that that are

1) Vanity (because they can)
2) The player / alt using the "FC" plot as a personal house with is against the TOS.

It is not against TOS. And yeah, they do it because they can, but again its a non-issue since supply for FCs in Behemoth is much higher than the demand and has been since 6.1. There's no reason to care about this.

[SassyAssassin]

Still a few free places in Goblet Louisoix, let’s be neighbours, I wont ever chat you up but lets :3!

[Final-Fantasy]

Title says it all, I'd rather go back to fighting bots at the placard for hours at a time because at least my dedication eventually got me a house. Square's solution to the bot problem being "lets just make it randomm!!xD" has to be the absolute laziest solution to a problem I've ever seen in a game.

I might have been okay with this stupidly lazy fix if it only applied to the dime a dozen small houses, but Medium and Large plots are some of the rarest and most sought after items in the game. Its insane to me that a some person who just hit level 50 and ground out a moot amount of gold has the same chance at getting one of these plots as a mentor with 50x more sub time and time played.

The very least they could do is increase the amount of money these plots cost (at least double) and require you to complete the Endwalker MSQ and possibly more. This would cut down on the amount of bids people with multiple alt characters and/or multiple accounts are putting in each buy period, as I personally know many people with 2+ houses that are putting in 3+ bids on MORE plots each buy period because of the loose restrictions.

The Lottery is fine, but they need to enforce the one plot per world Rule.

[Corvus_V]

The Lottery is fine, but they need to enforce the one plot per world Rule.

This would make it so people who own FCs can't own a house, and there's alot of people who wouldnt be happy about that. If you're talking about the people who circumvent those restrictions in the first place by owning multiple service accounts, it's extremely deniable and hard to prove, and Square Enix likely cares about it as much as they care about everyone who is pissed off about housing in general, since they pay the subs of those accounts just as much as every other per individual user. They've yet to make any plans or comment on how atrocious it is in general for the actual people who do play and want to participate, so all that is to say "they don't care much", which is basically their modus operandi for everything at this point. That being said, housing isn't fine, and by extension, neither is the lottery, or was placard spamming.

[Anienai]

I won another house!!!

3 out of 4 alts own a home now!