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    Corvus_V's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    It's almost as if resources, ie: time investment, hardware necessities and the such costs money. People certainly aren't going to do it for free. And before you say "they're already paid to do it", they're paid to make the game playable. The game is playable. Everything else takes extra effort which means more resources which means more money.
    You truly are out of your mind if you think they're breaking even on Final Fantasy XIV. It's their most profitable game. They literally just made a shoddy port of Gaia's outfit on the mogstation to sell for whatever much a pop; and they re-used assets in Endwalker for quite a lot of gear. You really think they're doing their best? Or do you think it's actually a good thing that they're so awful they use it to keep themselves afloat and nothing else?


    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    You were replying to this:

    and started with "And who's fault is that?" After randomly and falsely accusing me of taking the idea of instanced housing personally how else is that to be taken?
    The "whos fault is that" is directed at SE. Because it's their fault. I've never held anyone else responsible, not even RMTers or people who hold multiple houses, unlike you. Them acting like sociopaths about it and exacerbating the problem slightly doesn't mean they're the reason people can't find plots. Mainly because they actually aren't the problem, and it's the ward system itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    As I've said, everything you're saying here has been said almost ad infinitum for as long as housing has been in the game. They're already aware of it. If they were going to address it they already would have.
    That's too bad then. Maybe they should take the feedback and address it and make it clear how passive and apathetic they are to how everyone feels about it, so everyone gets a clearer picture about where and how they should be spending their money. They've yet to address it in 2023, post lottery or post 6.3, but since they've opted to try something new and its clear it's unsustainable, it's worth talking about. Also, I'm not going to stop.
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 01-23-2023 at 05:46 AM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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    I'm mostly just upset that the person who won the house I bid on over me still hasn't claimed it.

    I wish unclaimed bids had their lottery redrawn but instead it's going to end up going up for lottery again if it goes unclaimed and instead of being against 2 other people, I'm going to be against everyone who didn't win before who wants to bid on one of the only remaining houses free in the server.
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    I couldn't disagree more with this OP. Having lived through that system for many many years, this system is leagues above and better. The only way to combat the bots was to have multiple clickers (for FC only), a bot yourself, or pure luck.

    This system is completely fair. It's a random roll and sometimes we lose. It hurts, it sucks, but the answer isn't to ask for a horrible system to be reinstated, it's to toughen up and try again or ask for better options in the game (upgrading apartments, more wards (they're doing that), or w/e that isn't the old system).

    With this new system, I know dozens of people who never owned a home in this game now are new home owners. They never had a chance with the old system. This new system has opened up housing more than previous system ever did, from my experience.

    I'm sincerely sorry for everyone who lost. It's upsetting and I wish everyone could win, but trying to pull that awful ugly system back is not the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    "I have been trying to get a house for longer than you so I deserve it more than you" This sentiment makes me even more glad the lottery was added to put everyone on equal footing with winning a house. If you meet the requirements and have the gil to purchase there should be no other barriers from letting you try and purchase one.
    Sure it's equal, bots or people buying gil and winning your desired plot. Great system.
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    Bad idea, yes. But they certainly managed worse with their previous iteration. I consider it an improvement, with still a long way away before it's something remotely ideal.
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    So long as houses are limited, any system they implement to try and ration them out is going to feel like trash to the people who can't get one. Only actual, proper solution is instanced housing. Or automatically expanding wards or something I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    So long as houses are limited, any system they implement to try and ration them out is going to feel like trash to the people who can't get one. Only actual, proper solution is instanced housing. Or automatically expanding wards or something I guess.
    I think this is one thing to keep in mind, the system will (never) 'not be trash' whilst exclusivity is a thing. Where one person wins another will always lose. Whilst housing is a limited resource there is not really a good implementation that they can do - None of their previous iterations were any better than this, and to be frank, they were all worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    So long as houses are limited, any system they implement to try and ration them out is going to feel like trash to the people who can't get one. Only actual, proper solution is instanced housing. Or automatically expanding wards or something I guess.
    Problem is not only a limited supply but allowing anyone to bid on one. I use larges as the best example but nearly all the large FC got eaten up by personal or shell FCs, despite bidders with legitimate FCs. Unlucky? Sure. Bullshit broken system? Absolutely, that should NOT be allowed.

    They need to do what Anarchy Online did. Current ward system with whatever stupid buy system they want but also instanced housing (in AO instanced was also cheaper). Then give players the option to move their ward spot to an instanced one and vise-versa.

    This gives everyone what they want and lets SE keep the illusion of active wards.
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    Last edited by Troxbark; 01-23-2023 at 07:17 AM.

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    Graeham Graisse
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    Best it is make the 1 house binding to the account. Can not ever be enough for all the chara but it helping problem.

    Guildhall can be the instance. As guild get strongest can get the upgrade from lodge to castle to floating city. Prevent the chara from lock many of house into 1 chara guild.

    Also make the Garlemald town like the Wurlt. It have the steam and the factory and the car park.
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Yes.
    Dear FINAL FANTASY XIV SMALL HOUSE,
    I have never in my life made a mistake of this magnitude. My depth of my personal regret and mortification is only exceeded by the remorse I feel for how my actions have affected FINAL FANTASY XIV SMALL HOUSE.

    Please accept my sincere apology. I have learned so much from this incident, especially in regard to how I should conduct myself in the future. For example, {changes}.

    If there is any way that I can make amends, please don't hesitate to let me know. For example, {suggestion}. It won't be easy to atone for such a huge error, but I am determined to do my best.

    Sincerely,

    Corvus
    What if I just divorce the smalls and take the kids instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    So you have a 1 in 25 million chance to win 1 of 3 prizes but because one of those prizes isn't as good as the others you complain. That is pretentious. It's like winning 10 million dollars and complaining because it's not 200 million.
    No, it's like winning nothing, since you have to pay for it. Similarly, it's like winning nothing but paying more when you obtain a medium or large house. You don't actually win anything at all, because you pay for the experience. It's part of what you pay for; and just something we aren't getting because SE isn't handling it the way they should.
    The disingenuous part is referring to you saying smalls are as good when it's clear due to the openings people don't want them, in the same way they don't want apartments because of how small they are. Both allow you to use indoor furnishings, but they're undesirable because of the low decoration count, and low amount of space you can even use to decorate it. I promise you that the difference isn't the fact that you can place approximately 20 items outside.

    The pretentious part of what you said prior was that you said there "was no benefit to owning anything larger than a small" which was both factually incorrect on a technical level and practically incorrect in the fact that it isn't as fun to decorate one because of the limitations, and you're acting like they are the same as larger sized houses when they are not.
    I really don't feel like I should continue to dignify this train of thought because its ridiculous. You're misappropriating participating in something that you pay for as a privilege rather than a purchasing a service, and winning instead of earning.

    You can also only participate in one lottery at a time. So it's like paying 15$ to participate in any lottery whatsoever, and opting to go for the one that rewards you with a -checks notes- something no one wants because it's bad as opposed to potentially winning 200 million, or whatever, like you said.
    It might even be best if, when you think about it, there was no lottery or gambling at all, and everyone could just own what they can afford since this is a video-game.
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 01-23-2023 at 09:12 AM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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