Review of 6.3 Story Content

[Talonk]

2.3 was the start of the crystal braves which led to the red banquet. 3.3 was the final end to the dragonsong War and the ending of heavensward before it swapped to building up for stormblood. 4.3 was the end of yotsuyu's tragic tale and the final loose end in the liberation of othard, and the start of the build up for shadowbringers. 5.3 was the final fight against the last unsundered ascian and the final transportation of the scions souls back to their bodies on the source and the beginning of the build up for endwalker. All very major patches setting up the next expansion with an epic climactic clash against a significant expansion boss usually involved with the 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 story.

[Deveryn]

That's why I just approach everything as it's own stand-alone thing, even if it's from another game. "oh neat, they added this" is about all I go into it.





Remember the outrage when fenrir was "just a dungeon boss"? People expected it to be some huge summon/major boss thing because of XI.....

Don't forget Anima. The fact that they showed it off should've been a clue it wasn't going to be a trial. They tend to keep those things to themselves.

[Renathras]

2.3 was the start of the crystal braves which led to the red banquet. 3.3 was the final end to the dragonsong War and the ending of heavensward before it swapped to building up for stormblood. 4.3 was the end of yotsuyu's tragic tale and the final loose end in the liberation of othard, and the start of the build up for shadowbringers. 5.3 was the final fight against the last unsundered ascian and the final transportation of the scions souls back to their bodies on the source and the beginning of the build up for endwalker. All very major patches setting up the next expansion with an epic climactic clash against a significant expansion boss usually involved with the 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 story.

Which of those did you not look up?

Also, 5.2 and 5.4?

Also...are you OP's alt?

Hmmmm ......we did it once via the Exarch, we use the Tower gate opened by the Exarch as our method of travel, the other five got summoned the same way at the cost of ripping their souls from their bodies The 13th to the First yes, the ONLY person that can travel freely between the First and the Source is us..even the Exarch cant get back. The 13th yes..but to the Source? Hell even Unakalhai had to ask us to use a damned crystal to get him there.[/IMG]

The times we did it:

1) Returning the Scion's souls.
2) Returning G'Raha's soul (his was kind of different).
3) Bringing Unu to the First.

The time it was done to us:

1) Attuning to that watch thingy and bringing the WoL to the First (this also opened up a stable path through the semi-linked Aetherial Seas, but only for us since we existed in both in body as well as soul)

Portals to the Thirteenth: (Sorry I've forgotten their names)

1) When the boy (forget his name) was training with Ardbert's mage friend (as a boy) and they opened a rift successfully that sucked him in.
2) When the Sin Eater that was said mage friend was opening rifts of various sizes left and right trying to open one to save his friend.
3) When WE successfully rescue said friend through one.

Clearly, the Voidgates so opened allowed travel of people

Moreover, for all we know, what may be about to happen is just such a breach. That seems to be Golbez desire, anyway. And if you haven't talked to Cylia or Unu since 6.1, you should. They have a bit of commentary on the subject. I'm not certain if they were Memorates, but Cylia knows of them, and we know Unu has the Echo and was a Warrior of Light (albeit, a child one with little experience and power, too young to make much of a difference) as well. And we know what having the Echo means in general and being a Warrior of Light has some significance.

[ReynTime]

Again, OP:

Without looking it up, can you tell me right now what happened in 2.3?

3.3?

4.3?

MAYbe you can tell me what happened in 5.3 (because it was unusually significant), but what about 5.2 and 5.4?

You have to be joking. Those are all substantial patches story wise. Specially 3.3 and 4.3. And the accusation that the other user "Looked it up" is pathetic. It's really not that rare for people to remember the key story points in those patches.

[Talonk]

Which of those did you not look up?

Also, 5.2 and 5.4?

Also...are you OP's alt?



The times we did it:

1) Returning the Scion's souls.
2) Returning G'Raha's soul (his was kind of different).
3) Bringing Unu to the First.

The time it was done to us:

1) Attuning to that watch thingy and bringing the WoL to the First (this also opened up a stable path through the semi-linked Aetherial Seas, but only for us since we existed in both in body as well as soul)

Portals to the Thirteenth: (Sorry I've forgotten their names)

1) When the boy (forget his name) was training with Ardbert's mage friend (as a boy) and they opened a rift successfully that sucked him in.
2) When the Sin Eater that was said mage friend was opening rifts of various sizes left and right trying to open one to save his friend.
3) When WE successfully rescue said friend through one.

Clearly, the Voidgates so opened allowed travel of people

Moreover, for all we know, what may be about to happen is just such a breach. That seems to be Golbez desire, anyway. And if you haven't talked to Cylia or Unu since 6.1, you should. They have a bit of commentary on the subject. I'm not certain if they were Memorates, but Cylia knows of them, and we know Unu has the Echo and was a Warrior of Light (albeit, a child one with little experience and power, too young to make much of a difference) as well. And we know what having the Echo means in general and being a Warrior of Light has some significance.

I didn't look any of them up. You have to be completely disjointed from the story to not know what an x.3 patch has been in the past. They are big finale patches except 2.3 which is more out of the norm for just being a build up and not a finale. Not the ops alt but just proving a point that the patch cycle has been well structured and we are in a giant filler phase.

[Midareyukki]

You want actual filler, you should force them to explain every X.1 or X.4 patch instead.

[Eisi]

You have to be joking. Those are all substantial patches story wise. Specially 3.3 and 4.3. And the accusation that the other user "Looked it up" is pathetic. It's really not that rare for people to remember the key story points in those patches.

Yes, the little Lala made a dumb point. Yes, the little Lala's accusation was pathetic. But please, leave him alone, he just ran head first into a wall and clearly didn't know any better. He's probably very fresh and feels like a pimp.

[Renathras]

I didn't look any of them up. You have to be completely disjointed from the story to not know what an x.3 patch has been in the past. They are big finale patches except 2.3 which is more out of the norm for just being a build up and not a finale. Not the ops alt but just proving a point that the patch cycle has been well structured and we are in a giant filler phase.

2.3 means we have precedence for this - the Crystal Braves stuff, while important to the future story (just like, I dunno, blocking the Scions from returning to the Void so that Golbez can do something he needs a little more time to do might be...) was not some climactic event or major lore reveal. It was also the last time we were moving from one story arc (Bahamut/Calamity/Ultima weapon, started in 1.X) into a new story arc. Which is...the same thing we're doing now with 6.1-6.5 with 6.0 ending the Hydaelyn/Zodiark saga and starting a new story arc.

I'm also still waiting for some to say what happened in 5.2 or 5.4 without looking it up. Or as Midareyukki points out, any X.1 or X.4 patch.

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What I was SPECIFICALLY referring to was OP saying that this patch was filler and was the worst patch in the game's history in terms of story. I was kind of curios of he would back that up when asked about past patches, or if he even knew what story was added in all the past patches - something you'd need to know before definitively saying this was the worst of ALL patches.

Given he hasn't answered me, either he didn't see either of my posts (possible) or he didn't know what happened in other patches (also possible, and somewhat likely), meaning my rebuttal to his point probably stands: One cannot say this is the worst patch ever if one does not even know what the other patches all were to know this one was definitively worse than all of them.

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You have to be joking. Those are all substantial patches story wise. Specially 3.3 and 4.3. And the accusation that the other user "Looked it up" is pathetic. It's really not that rare for people to remember the key story points in those patches.

It wasn't an accusation, it was a question.

And what was significant story wise in 2.3? And do you not think the events in 6.3 are significant to the future story? Why do you think that? And do you know what happened, without looking it up, in 5.2 and 5.4? Or all the other X.1 or X.4 patches? X.5 patches are pretty easy since they all tend to be pretty significant and memorable bridges.

Yes, the little Lala made a dumb point. Yes, the little Lala's accusation was pathetic. But please, leave him alone, he just ran head first into a wall and clearly didn't know any better. He's probably very fresh and feels like a pimp.

I'm sorry, I'm a helmless, freespirited Dwarf. I don't speak Troll.

[Talonk]

2.3 means we have precedence for this - the Crystal Braves stuff, while important to the future story (just like, I dunno, blocking the Scions from returning to the Void so that Golbez can do something he needs a little more time to do might be...) was not some climactic event or major lore reveal. It was also the last time we were moving from one story arc (Bahamut/Calamity/Ultima weapon, started in 1.X) into a new story arc. Which is...the same thing we're doing now with 6.1-6.5 with 6.0 ending the Hydaelyn/Zodiark saga and starting a new story arc.

I'm also still waiting for some to say what happened in 5.2 or 5.4 without looking it up. Or as Midareyukki points out, any X.1 or X.4 patch.

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What I was SPECIFICALLY referring to was OP saying that this patch was filler and was the worst patch in the game's history in terms of story. I was kind of curios of he would back that up when asked about past patches, or if he even knew what story was added in all the past patches - something you'd need to know before definitively saying this was the worst of ALL patches.

Given he hasn't answered me, either he didn't see either of my posts (possible) or he didn't know what happened in other patches (also possible, and somewhat likely), meaning my rebuttal to his point probably stands: One cannot say this is the worst patch ever if one does not even know what the other patches all were to know this one was definitively worse than all of them.

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It wasn't an accusation, it was a question.

And what was significant story wise in 2.3? And do you not think the events in 6.3 are significant to the future story? Why do you think that? And do you know what happened, without looking it up, in 5.2 and 5.4? Or all the other X.1 or X.4 patches? X.5 patches are pretty easy since they all tend to be pretty significant and memorable bridges.



I'm sorry, I'm a helmless, freespirited Dwarf. I don't speak Troll.

Considering the entirety of this expansion ended technically at 6.0 the build up is super super slow. This patch does feel very underwhelming compared to the other x.3 patches. And I understand why people feel that its not up to snuff because of it. Its different than what we are used to. We aren't getting sidequest trials anymore. This is the main story. Nothing of this is a side quest. But it feels like one to alot of us. I'm hoping it builds up. I want it to be explosive.

[VelKallor]

1) Returning the Scion's souls.

In crystals, which as has been stated, was an extremely dangerous, last ditch exercise, a one shot which, if it had gone wrong, was irreversible.

2) Returning G'Raha's soul (his was kind of different).

Same thing. WE did the travelling because WE can traverse between the First and the Source.

3) Bringing Unu to the First.

..for which we got a royal ( and well deserved ) REAMING from Beq Lugg.