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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I think the Four Fiends are decently written. Like, what we see of their past in the side quest is really good and lets us get an idea of their motives and what life was like during the Contramemoria (Its just a sin that all that is hidden in a side quest and not incorporated into the MSQ itself.) The writers just decided that they where not going to be long-term characters in whatever they have lined up. It sucks when that happens to characters you like (I still miss you Moenbryda...) but it happens. I wonder if the complaints about the Four Fiends would be the same if they where unique FFXIV creations, or if some are putting them on pedestals just because of their legacy.
    I feel that if their back stories were part of the MSQ we'd have more people complaining about the pace these last two patches. Along with how much more filler they'd both feel like. This is the XIV community when hasn't it put things on absurdly high pedestals only to get grouchy when something doesn't meet their expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I feel that if their back stories were part of the MSQ we'd have more people complaining about the pace these last two patches. Along with how much more filler they'd both feel like. This is the XIV community when hasn't it put things on absurdly high pedestals only to get grouchy when something doesn't meet their expectations.

    That's why I just approach everything as it's own stand-alone thing, even if it's from another game. "oh neat, they added this" is about all I go into it.





    Remember the outrage when fenrir was "just a dungeon boss"? People expected it to be some huge summon/major boss thing because of XI.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That's why I just approach everything as it's own stand-alone thing, even if it's from another game. "oh neat, they added this" is about all I go into it.





    Remember the outrage when fenrir was "just a dungeon boss"? People expected it to be some huge summon/major boss thing because of XI.....
    This is how I go about it. I'm just glad we get to see these characters in different views in this game. IV and VIII are my top two FF's. Being able to see the Fiends and Eden in whatever capacity they're added in, is good enough for me.
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    Own 123 of 126 gunblades currently in game. I like gunblades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That's why I just approach everything as it's own stand-alone thing, even if it's from another game. "oh neat, they added this" is about all I go into it.





    Remember the outrage when fenrir was "just a dungeon boss"? People expected it to be some huge summon/major boss thing because of XI.....
    Don't forget Anima. The fact that they showed it off should've been a clue it wasn't going to be a trial. They tend to keep those things to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    You're not supposed to tell others that the series loves to get it's kicks by taking it's self out on a date and then go back to its place to do the horizontal foxtrot. I had a person say I was crazy for wanting to know the difference between why some things when they die just turn into aether dust. You know the stuff you see all over the Delta Quadrant in Azys La and how some people like Yasale, Elidibus, Haurchefant ect get the Farplane sperm thingies.

    For me up to ShB Hydelean and Zodiark felt like they were going beat for beat of the Altana Vs Promethean storyline from XI. Heck both MMOs have the players beat up Hades at the end of one of their expansions. And yes the it has to be all one way or the other is one of my gripes with the community as well. Especially when it comes to liking or disliking something. You say you like something and somehow that must mean you don't have any minor faults with it. Or that you have to be a shill.

    I think there's probably more people who remember and care about Delores Bear and his ill fated party than Edda herself. There were even people who had forgotten who G'Raha was when starting ShB due to how long ago they had done the CT raid.
    Wasnt saying that. Just that people complaining that the we defeated all of the fiends within these patches while I can understand wishing a bit more from them (me included), its also a bad thing to drag them out for longer than necessary. I reserve my full judgement till 7.0 comes and then I can see how I ultimately feel how post-EW was handled. So far I think its just ok, interesting but just curious whats it building up to.
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    You want actual filler, you should force them to explain every X.1 or X.4 patch instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    You have to be joking. Those are all substantial patches story wise. Specially 3.3 and 4.3. And the accusation that the other user "Looked it up" is pathetic. It's really not that rare for people to remember the key story points in those patches.
    Yes, the little Lala made a dumb point. Yes, the little Lala's accusation was pathetic. But please, leave him alone, he just ran head first into a wall and clearly didn't know any better. He's probably very fresh and feels like a pimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    Yes, the little Lala made a dumb point. Yes, the little Lala's accusation was pathetic. But please, leave him alone, he just ran head first into a wall and clearly didn't know any better. He's probably very fresh and feels like a pimp.
    Keeping my Lalafell avatar aside - this really isn't about virtual races - this is easily the most grating way I've seen someone speak.
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    1) Returning the Scion's souls.
    In crystals, which as has been stated, was an extremely dangerous, last ditch exercise, a one shot which, if it had gone wrong, was irreversible.

    2) Returning G'Raha's soul (his was kind of different).
    Same thing. WE did the travelling because WE can traverse between the First and the Source.

    3) Bringing Unu to the First.
    ..for which we got a royal ( and well deserved ) REAMING from Beq Lugg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Don't forget Anima. The fact that they showed it off should've been a clue it wasn't going to be a trial. They tend to keep those things to themselves.
    How the hell should have it been a clue it wasn't going to be a trial? This was literally the only time they didn't spoil the first two trials before release. They even had to change their wording in the EN website because it originally said "New trials".
    You could predict that it was all a red herring, but it's hard to blame the community for it because Square Enix were being intentionally misleading. (They revealed Anima at the same schedule they revealed Titania and they never hyped dungeon bosses with Fanfest artworks before EW.)
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 01-19-2023 at 04:27 PM.

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