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  1. #361
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    ( a whole lot of stuff )
    Ill say it...I always look foreword to your posts
    They very often make no sense and are hard to read.....but you bring a level of entertainment these threads need
    Thank You for your service~
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  2. #362
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    Meanwhile on Island Sanctuary rank 12 quest (Spoiler):
    Cirina and Sadu visiting our island and purposely not inviting "little sun". I feel like Magnai turned them into lesbian...
    I was unaware that Island Sanctuary even had a story attached to it but after seeing the accursed femroe gawk at Nophica like in the screenshot in the first post I should not be surprised. Seems like wlw is all ok but mlm is still largely shafted in this game, funny that. I shouldn't have to point out how ridiculous and unpalatable "x gender gave me relationship issues so I'm going to go date y gender instead" writing is. I take offense to any writing that plays off such notions, especially when the average person would choose the Magnai's of the world over the insufferable Y'shtolas or unhinged Sadus.

    Only a certain subset of FFXIV players seem to think otherwise, but those same individuals often say all sorts of outlandish things that have even been parroted by official accounts such as the whole stepping thing. I simply do not share these submissive tendencies, especially those projected all over FFXIV twitter by mostly (straight?) men. Anyone who says stuff like that cannot be taken seriously and I do not care for their input when it comes to writing male characters, though the pathetic state of the male cast could probably be more attributed to certain types who are used to talking over men who don't push back against them. I'd like to see more entertaining stories led by characters who "happen to be XYZ" rather than having such features be pushed to the forefront instead of actual character development.

    We deserve more than superficial "representation" nonsense.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 01-18-2023 at 12:24 AM.
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  3. #363
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    Still finding it awkward that in two patches we casually ran through the four fiends. Last patch was so hype, and now this one is just... empty. It's not the worst because there's always the possibility that this is just build up for something big post Golbez, especially since we basically dragged the scions back together.

    I can tolerate this for now if it's just a small part of the bigger picture later on, but there better be a much bigger picture considering the note EW ended on.
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  4. #364
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    Ellisar Loravalur
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I can understand someone liking Endwalker (even if I would vehemently disagree with that opinion) but wow this community's standards are low if it can't imagine any better possible way to end the story. Either that or it lacks imagination.
    I can't represent the whole community. As a single fan of fantasy stories and tabletop RPG, there is much more than imagination.
    You need to have long term vision and a message, you need to know how to instigate and create an appropriate atmosphere to make people care about your characters.
    If at some point of your life you caught yourself thinking about any FFXIV character, they won. Not every writer is capable to do it, that is why we have so many different styles of lore.

    Again, considering the context of FFXIV, the lore from ARR to Endwalker was good enough to create features, content, environments and interests.
    I believe the real problem here is the fact that some people felt robbed or taken as a fool when we finally discovered the source of the calamity or final days after so many years theorizing.
    Personally, i enjoy some surprises or twist when they keep the universe integrity. The fact that they decided to finally end the story instead of milking it forever says enough about their confidence.
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  5. #365
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    There was no long term vision or consistent message though. The writers changed for the worse in the end and now they change every patch and from the looks of it they're all at odds with each other.

    Again, I'd like to think that Hiroi will do better than Ishikawa if only for the fact that nothing could be worse than the little girl of despair destroying the universe and all the other things her writing subjected us to with the likes of G'raha and Hermes.

    Even so, she broke a significant amount of FFXIV lore to prop up her OCs and the fact such things were even given the go-ahead despite the game having an alleged "10 year plan" is shocking.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 01-18-2023 at 01:38 AM.
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  6. #366
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There was no long term vision or consistent message though. The writers changed for the worse in the end and now they change every patch and from the looks of it they're all at odds with each other.

    Again, I'd like to think that Hiroi will do better than Ishikawa if only for the fact that nothing could be worse than the little girl of despair destroying the universe and all the other things her writing subjected us to with the likes of G'raha and Hermes.

    Even so, she broke a significant amount of FFXIV lore to prop up her OCs and the fact such things were even given the go-ahead despite the game having an alleged "10 year plan" is shocking.

    But didn't she write shadowbringers? You know, the one everyone loves?
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  7. #367
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But didn't she write shadowbringers? You know, the one everyone loves?
    The story that was more or less in it's own vacuum? That was a neat story but there was some rumors that she had to rewrite the second half of EW per Yoshida's request. Though the fact that Fandanny phantom showed up in the 5.X patches really doesn't help the case that the new writer added her OC and his twitter pet bird seemingly out of nowhere.
    Though considering how 6.3's story wrapped up it seems like we may be getting something a bit more proper. Man, the ending of 6.0 was so lackluster...
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    Last edited by Raoabolic; 01-18-2023 at 02:25 AM.

  8. #368
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    I've kinda expected a lull in the story. How could we not? They HAVE to reel things back and start setting up for new story after EW. And I'm sure this content is very exciting for those who love FF4!

    I find a huge downside of being largely inspired but such an old FF entry though is that the plot beats are predictably old JRPG feeling. I don't know anything about FF4, but the boss designs also feel like they're mostly taken from old FF. They feel SO outdated. None of the designs are interesting at all or have anything unique going on. The dungeon boss felt like a copy paste of Susano's whole personality.(maybe this is just a water+turtle thing but still)

    Not to mention, idk what it is about recent fights but they're just boring. The only thing that gets me hyped for them lately is the music.
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  9. #369
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    As an FFIV fan I’ve been throughly unimpressed with this arc. Each archfiend reusing skeletons from other boss models was incredibly lazy, and Golbez I think is the most uninteresting antagonist in the game so far. Not even Stranger of Paradise took this long to get the point. God.
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  10. #370
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    As an FFIV fan I’ve been throughly unimpressed with this arc. Each archfiend reusing skeletons from other boss models was incredibly lazy, and Golbez I think is the most uninteresting antagonist in the game so far. Not even Stranger of Paradise took this long to get the point. God.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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