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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    You are wanting to know where the story goes from here to decide whether or not you will like it, not so? I say be patient because we have NO idea whats coming...wheres the fun in flipping to the end?

    Its a simple question...also Im sorry you dont like it, because I do. I am having a blast with this new story arc.
    I think what the other person is saying is that it lacks substance. I dont dislike the new content I just think its very slow and doesn't have to much to offer. Hell for all we know we end up getting the dragon free and then go completely elsewhere with the story and none of this matters. I mean plenty of big stories have massive filler. This is the garlic junior saga. At least thats how I feel about it.
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    I think what the other person is saying is that it lacks substance. I dont dislike the new content I just think its very slow and doesn't have to much to offer
    Setting the stage takes time, which I suspect is what this is. I dont know whats coming, but from what I can see, they are putting pieces together for a very big reveal...and maybe the launch of the new story arc I dont know, this feels a lot like A Requiem for Heroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    You are wanting to know where the story goes from here to decide whether or not you will like it, not so?
    I think you misunderstood me. This is what I said in my first post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Payotz View Post
    Like I still enjoyed the experience. I enjoyed the cinematic cutscenes, Zero struggling to learn how to be human again etc... but this feels like filler rather than actual MSQ.
    Hopefully I get proven wrong and things turn around. Story's the one consistent thing that I've enjoyed about the game, and the one of the few areas of the game I genuinely think they care about.
    Hoping that things turn around and criticizing the story now are not mutually exclusive things. I can criticize the media I consume buddy. That's what I'm doing now.
    Yes, the handling has been shit so far. The archfiends were throwaways. Zero is literally just Lightning and Cloud transported into FF14.

    All these things are still valid criticism regardless of whether or not I'm hoping it turns around, cause right now, I can only describe my opinions on the story that is present right now.

    If these things change when 7.0 comes rolling around and there's this massive payoff or something that comes out, then they finished off strong, but that doesn't mean that the beginning and the middle are not bland.

    The one thing you always hear about Post ARR Patches is the fact that it was handled poorly, was essentially filler, and is still pretty much considered as one of the worse parts of the game EVEN THOUGH it sets up expansions, stories and ends with the banger that is The Parting Glass.

    If Post ARR Patches can be criticized as such, then why is this current MSQ arc such an exception?
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    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

  4. #464
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Setting the stage takes time, which I suspect is what this is. I dont know whats coming, but from what I can see, they are putting pieces together for a very big reveal...and maybe the launch of the new story arc I dont know, this feels a lot like A Requiem for Heroes.
    I would be happy if it came down to something like that. Or since its pretty much void invested it becomes a travel to the 13th expansion which would possibly bring back that shadowbringers feel of desperation in fighting back a different flood in an already ruined world. I myself will be more open minded going forward and hope this set up just hits harder than a bass drop hahahaha
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  5. #465
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    When has FFXIV ever told a story quickly without a LOT of build up they take forever to get anywhere. I don't understand why it's a problem now. I feel the same way halfway through every expansion. Like I don't understand why I should care about these characters like the miqo in Eulmore who ends up being an engineer for exactly what we end up needing.
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  6. #466
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sklaf View Post
    When has FFXIV ever told a story quickly without a LOT of build up they take forever to get anywhere. I don't understand why it's a problem now. I feel the same way halfway through every expansion. Like I don't understand why I should care about these characters like the miqo in Eulmore who ends up being an engineer for exactly what we end up needing.
    It boils down to the expansions real end at a x.3 patch which we didn't get this time around. 2 patches to build up a new expansion is the norm and now we have 5 patches to build up a story so yeah its really feeling like filler because of that. Especially since we know where we are going but are rushing towards it while gaining as little information as possible. Thats how I feel. ARR was slow because it had to build up the entirety of the game so maybe its just arr all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonk View Post
    It boils down to the expansions real end at a x.3 patch which we didn't get this time around. 2 patches to build up a new expansion is the norm and now we have 5 patches to build up a story so yeah its really feeling like filler because of that. Especially since we know where we are going but are rushing towards it while gaining as little information as possible. Thats how I feel. ARR was slow because it had to build up the entirety of the game so maybe its just arr all over again.
    Maybe I'm wrong but didn't they make this expansion longer to finish off the whole arc in one go? Because I thought the end was supposed to be when we fistbumped Zeno to death. Wich would mean this isn't meant to be part of the expansion story but a lead in to the next arc of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sklaf View Post
    Maybe I'm wrong but didn't they make this expansion longer to finish off the whole arc in one go? Because I thought the end was supposed to be when we fistbumped Zeno to death. Wich would mean this isn't meant to be part of the expansion story but a lead in to the next arc of the story.
    There are lingering parts from 6.0 but you are right 6.1 onwards is meant to be a new arc so to speak I think it is also why 6.3 isn't as hard-hitting as other .3 patches but that's because they were always designed as an expansion story closure. This isn't needed now as 6.0 ended it at that point. I feel 6.4 will be the .3 equivalent and then 6.5 the set up to 7.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payotz View Post
    Zero is literally just Lightning and Cloud transported into FF14
    Hey.......That implies a level of depth that zero has well.....Zero of....

    I would liken her more to "But we have Gaia at home kids".
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    Quote Originally Posted by undull1 View Post
    Hey.......That implies a level of depth that zero has well.....Zero of....

    I would liken her more to "But we have Gaia at home kids".
    Cept thats not true considering how bratty and spoiled Gaia's character was. At least she changed for the better though
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