Thread: Review of 6.3 Story Content

Originally Posted by Talonk

Lets be real here. The Writer for ShB is either working on two projects at once, or is washed up.

Ishikawa stepped down after 6.0 and took an advisory role, currently we have new writers on board—her "juniors." She's barely involved in the actual writing and just supervises now.

Originally Posted by CStrife912

Thing is if they had played FF4 you would see that outside of say Rubicante, all the fiends had more screen time in 14 than in the game they're from, Scarmiglione especially because they were canon fodder in FF4.

Pretty much this. Just like with many things this game borrows from previous titles (which other FF games have done numerous times before. This isnt anything new with FFXIV) they give new meaning to the familiar. So them expanding on Golbez and the Four Fiends using the framework giving in FFXIV is kinda neat imo. Ive played FFIV multiple times; certainly more than aveyond-dreams, and as someone who's a fan of the old school, I very much enjoy what they do with the stuff they pull from. Its not like Kingdom Hearts where they just half-ass the FF references or completely ruin the original. Like Vivi in KH2...ugh..

Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Besides, didn't the Four Fiends not last very long in FFIV anyway?

The Four Fiends were used through out ff4 up until the second to last dungeon before the descent in the lunar final dungeon. They were a huge part of the story and ressurected as well.

Also Yeah I'm not saying the writer is bad Im just trying to figure out what happened. But we do know that half of yoshi p's team is working on ffXVI so makybe Ishiwaka is not well equipped with her usual team who knows. just feels very bad right now. At least for me.

Reread what I said. They have a direction but dont know how to push forward with it. Zero is basically voidsent gaia.

Originally Posted by Talonk

The Four Fiends were used through out ff4 up until the second to last dungeon before the descent in the lunar final dungeon. They were a huge part of the story and ressurected as well.

Also Yeah I'm not saying the writer is bad Im just trying to figure out what happened. But we do know that half of yoshi p's team is working on ffXVI so makybe Ishiwaka is not well equipped with her usual team who knows. just feels very bad right now. At least for me.

Their characters in og FFIV were all left at their one shining moment which is just one scene when they appear in the whole game. Which works regardless.

Honestly it just feels like I am playing the expansion Trial series as the MSQ. That isn't to say trial series are bad as I loved most of them just the pacing isn't really MSQ levels but more in line with how trial series have done their pacing previously. It just feels really off for the MSQ to me when it comes to Zero's character development and it feeling like it was speed ran.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Can definitely relate. I do miss the days in previous expansions when the Trial series was its own questline...instead I'm supposed to be excited for Tataru - from what I understand - dressing the 4 lords in chicken outfits because haha funneh? Endwalker is more a bad sitcom than an RPG at this point. Can't imagine another expansion worth of this style of writing with levity and bottom of the barrel humour galore. Mind you, this is before the Loporrit beast tribe quests drop but by the time they do my sub will have long since run out and I'll be playing Hogwarts Legacy.

Also glad to know that this game is so rich in story and content to discuss and play through that FFXIV youtubers have resorted to using my threads for videos. I suppose I should welcome the attention, nevertheless I stand by pretty much everything I've said and can only hope that the only way forward from here is up. Unfortunately me thinking that back in 6.2 did not save 6.3 from being as underwhelming as it was. I'd really like it if the game would go back to cutting out the busywork and delivering more entertaining patch stories like it did in previous expansions instead of the state of things being excused as ok "because it's filler."

Do not waste my time like this MSQ did, shouldn't decent writers strive for better?

You mean where Mr happy gave good retort to most of your points and the comments in the video also confirmed you seem to be on some weird hate boner for some reason. Why can't you every quote or respond to people eh? you seem to just want to ignore everyone who even remotely gives good retorts in favor of boosting your own ego chamber. Also he is using your content probably because it would be good for views because of how ludicrously one-sided your viewpoint is lol it offers content where they can debate and have a healthy discussions.